From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 1 13:34:39 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA29017 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:34:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5SSG21; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:34:29 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11CYSpX000221 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:34:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:33:46 +0100 Received: from logos.hol.gr ([IPv6:::ffff:194.30.192.15]:62607 "EHLO logos.hol.gr" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:33:35 +0100 Received: from smtp.hol.gr (aperion.mail.dc.hol.net [192.168.20.34]) by logos.hol.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h11CXS018619 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:33:28 +0200 Received: from voyager4 (vdp022.ath02.cas.hol.gr [195.97.117.23]) by smtp.hol.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h11CXMO03389 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:33:27 +0200 Message-ID: <01d001c2c9ee$171903f0$0100a8c0@voyager4> From: "Voyager" To: References: <19e.102870d6.2b6b1c92@aol.com> Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR SALE Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:33:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CD_01C2C9FE.D71A5AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.3(snapshot 20020312) (aperion) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 2803 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01CD_01C2C9FE.D71A5AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, but what's OVNO? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Highlandish@aol.com=20 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR SALE I have 2 machines both with one internal disc drive each.(can be taken = out and 2 put into one!) Also an add on 1mb pack, an interface, a collection of FRED discs, a = DTP pack, Software making pack,(canna think of the name of it, but = allows you to easilly make your own games) scart lead etc etc.....=20 1 machine, and some software looking at =A3120 OVNO plus P&P 1mb pack or interface add =A320 OVNO both machines and everything i have =A3220 OVNOplus carriage....=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01CD_01C2C9FE.D71A5AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, but what's OVNO?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Highlandish@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 = 2:25=20 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR = SALE

I have 2 machines both with one internal disc = drive=20 each.(can be taken out and 2 put into one!)
Also an add on 1mb = pack, an=20 interface, a collection of FRED discs, a DTP pack, Software making = pack,(canna=20 think of the name of it, but allows you to easilly make your own = games) scart=20 lead etc etc.....
1 machine, and some software looking at =A3120 = OVNO plus=20 P&P
1mb pack or interface add =A320 OVNO
both machines and = everything=20 i have =A3220 OVNOplus carriage.... =
------=_NextPart_000_01CD_01C2C9FE.D71A5AE0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 1 13:39:20 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA29129 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:39:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0CKT6W; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:39:15 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11CdFA1027012 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:39:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:38:26 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([IPv6:::ffff:212.74.114.40]:53778 "EHLO mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-113" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:38:08 +0100 Received: from [80.225.87.80] (helo=estella) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ex0v-000B7p-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:44:53 +0000 From: "Justin Skists" To: Subject: RE: Sam Stuff - FOR SALE Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:35:27 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2C9EE.66498990" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <01d001c2c9ee$171903f0$0100a8c0@voyager4> X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 3791 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2C9EE.66498990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h11CdFA1027012 "or very near offer", i guess -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no]O= n Behalf Of Voyager Sent: 01 February 2003 12:33 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR SALE Sorry, but what's OVNO? ----- Original Message ----- From: Highlandish@aol.com To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR SALE I have 2 machines both with one internal disc drive each.(can be take= n out and 2 put into one!) Also an add on 1mb pack, an interface, a collection of FRED discs, a = DTP pack, Software making pack,(canna think of the name of it, but allows you= to easilly make your own games) scart lead etc etc..... 1 machine, and some software looking at =A3120 OVNO plus P&P 1mb pack or interface add =A320 OVNO both machines and everything i have =A3220 OVNOplus carriage.... ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2C9EE.66498990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"or=20 very near offer", i guess
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no]On Behalf Of=20 Voyager
Sent: 01 February 2003 12:33
To:=20 sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR=20 SALE

Sorry, but what's OVNO?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Highlandish@aol.com
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Friday, January 31, = 2003 2:25=20 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR = SALE

I have 2 machines both with one internal disc = drive=20 each.(can be taken out and 2 put into one!)
Also an add on 1mb = pack, an=20 interface, a collection of FRED discs, a DTP pack, Software making=20 pack,(canna think of the name of it, but allows you to easilly make = your own=20 games) scart lead etc etc.....
1 machine, and some software = looking at=20 =A3120 OVNO plus P&P
1mb pack or interface add =A320 = OVNO
both=20 machines and everything i have =A3220 OVNOplus carriage....=20
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2C9EE.66498990-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 1 13:53:33 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA29511 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:53:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0CK48X; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:53:28 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11CrSpX002969 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:53:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:52:27 +0100 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com ([IPv6:::ffff:205.188.157.34]:52730 "EHLO imo-d02.mx.aol.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:52:05 +0100 Received: from Highlandish@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id j.1d2.1684554 (16484) for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:51:51 -0500 (EST) From: Highlandish@aol.com Message-ID: <1d2.1684554.2b6d1ce7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:51:51 EST Subject: Re: Sam Stuff - FOR SALE To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d2.1684554.2b6d1ce7_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows UK sub 540 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 448 Status: RO --part1_1d2.1684554.2b6d1ce7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OVNO or very near offer --part1_1d2.1684554.2b6d1ce7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OVNO or very near offer --part1_1d2.1684554.2b6d1ce7_boundary-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 1 23:46:43 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id XAA18415 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0CMGBT; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:23 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11MkNpY017150 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:26 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.92]:48118 "EHLO carbon.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:09 +0100 Received: from host213-122-216-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.216.169] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18f6Nn-000698-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:45:07 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c2ca43$99463550$a9d87ad5@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: References: Subject: Re: Sam Stuff Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:20:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 412 Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Bloggs" To: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Sam Stuff I'm currently in the process of removing my SAM from the attic for testing purposes, and the software should be there. I'll let you know when I find it. ----------- Cheers Fred! Now - if only I could remember what I lent you! :) regards From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 1 23:46:28 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id XAA18416 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY529JLV; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:23 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11MkNpX017150 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:27 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.92]:63734 "EHLO carbon.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:45:12 +0100 Received: from host213-122-216-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.216.169] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18f6No-000698-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:45:08 +0000 Message-ID: <003901c2ca43$9a1cbf30$a9d87ad5@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: "sam-users" Subject: Contact details... Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:30:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 81 Status: RO has anyone an email address for either Martijn or Robert at all? Cheers David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 2 00:06:15 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id AAA18933 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:06:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0CMHPK; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:06:11 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11N6BpX020344 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:06:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:05:18 +0100 Received: from borg.kabelfoon.nl ([IPv6:::ffff:62.45.45.14]:58376 "EHLO borg.kabelfoon.nl" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:04:58 +0100 Received: from Robertsmachine (kf-mss-cb01-0590.dial.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.158.79]) by borg.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3877614E1A8 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:04:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003701c2ca46$53840e40$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> From: "Robert van der Veeke" To: References: <003901c2ca43$9a1cbf30$a9d87ad5@davidkw44rkbwb> Subject: Re: Contact details... Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:04:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 849 Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" To: "sam-users" Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: Contact details... > has anyone an email address for either Martijn or Robert at all? > > Cheers > > David Don't worry i am here, just a bit busy the last weeks. If have read your mail, i just still have to make a zipped file that i can send to you. Martijn is also on the list, he can be reached at mgreen@wanadoo.nl you should contact him for the most recent version of B-dos. Robert van der Veeke Currently listening to: Haibane Renmei - OST "Clear the area! An idiot's gonna take a chance!" -Seiya Uribatake --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 11-1-2003 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 2 00:10:18 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id AAA19048 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:10:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0CMHXY; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:10:18 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h11NAHpX021009 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:10:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:09:28 +0100 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.81]:2998 "EHLO tungsten.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:09:15 +0100 Received: from host213-122-216-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.216.169] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18f6l7-0001aI-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:09:14 +0000 Message-ID: <00a101c2ca46$f7ab5f00$a9d87ad5@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: References: <003901c2ca43$9a1cbf30$a9d87ad5@davidkw44rkbwb> <003701c2ca46$53840e40$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> Subject: Re: Contact details... Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:09:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 555 Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert van der Veeke" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Contact details... > > Don't worry i am here, just a bit busy the last weeks. If have read your > mail, i just still have to make a zipped file that i can send to you. > Cheers! I really appreciate that! regards david > Robert van der Veeke > Currently listening to: Haibane Renmei - OST Currently listening to: NaS Ne Dagoniat (Not Gonna Get Us) TATU - 200 KM/H In the Wrong Lane From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 3 23:09:41 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id XAA10031 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:09:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5S0LQ3; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:09:37 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h13M9aA1021645 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:09:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:09:22 +0100 Received: from logos.hol.gr ([IPv6:::ffff:194.30.192.15]:5077 "EHLO logos.hol.gr" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:09:10 +0100 Received: from smtp.hol.gr (aperion.mail.dc.hol.net [192.168.20.34]) by logos.hol.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h13M94025347 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:09:04 +0200 Received: from voyager4 (vdp004.ath10.cas.hol.gr [195.97.126.5]) by smtp.hol.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h13M93O31938 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:09:03 +0200 Message-ID: <016201c2cbd0$db85a480$0100a8c0@voyager4> From: "Voyager" To: References: <1d9.181bd3e.2b700560@aol.com> Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:09:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015F_01C2CBE1.9E784F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.3(snapshot 20020312) (aperion) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 2383 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C2CBE1.9E784F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would'nt be nice to add (by default) a tagline with the = subscribe/unsubscribe or help/FAQ commands, on every message? I know, = it's something that the mailing list server should do. Is it = confugurable? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: =20 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Unsubscribe please Stambourne@aol.com ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C2CBE1.9E784F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would'nt be nice to add (by default) a = tagline with=20 the subscribe/unsubscribe or help/FAQ commands, on every message? I = know, it's=20 something that the mailing list server should do. Is it=20 confugurable?
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Stambourne@aol.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C2CBE1.9E784F00-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 4 10:04:46 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id KAA00559 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:04:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TCF6X; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:04:42 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1494gpX017487 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:04:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:04:25 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:212.187.183.152] ([IPv6:::ffff:212.187.183.152]:44299 "HELO mailserver.directline.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:04:14 +0100 Subject: Re: Unsubscribe To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: From: Dan.Doore@directline.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:02:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Return-Path: Dan.Doore@directline.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h1494gpX017487 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by edh3.edh.ericsson.se id KAA00559 Content-Length: 3190 Status: RO http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/maillist.htm Dan. -- Dan Dooré Technical Specialist - LAN Direct Line Group Services Stambourne@aol.co m To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent by: cc: owner-sam-users@n Subject: Re: Unsubscribe vg.ntnu.no 03/02/2003 17:48 Please respond to sam-users Unsubscribe please Stambourne@aol.com Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. 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From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 3 18:49:02 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id SAA02457 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:49:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JH7M8; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:48:58 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h13HmvpX001155 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:48:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:48:43 +0100 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com ([IPv6:::ffff:205.188.157.34]:27608 "EHLO imo-d02.mx.aol.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:48:31 +0100 Received: from Stambourne@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id j.1d9.181bd3e (30960) for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:48:17 -0500 (EST) From: Stambourne@aol.com Message-ID: <1d9.181bd3e.2b700560@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:48:16 EST Subject: Re: Unsubscribe To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1d9.181bd3e.2b700560_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL For Mac OS X sub 28 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 576 Status: RO --part1_1d9.181bd3e.2b700560_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsubscribe please Stambourne@aol.com --part1_1d9.181bd3e.2b700560_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unsubscribe please

Stambourne@aol.com --part1_1d9.181bd3e.2b700560_boundary-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 12:02:34 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA15556 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:02:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DD7NG; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:02:31 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15B2UpX025601 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:02:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:02:07 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:53008 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-113" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:02:04 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:01:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:01:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Freds wanted From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2E7A6F48-38F9-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 236 Status: RO I'm looking to complete my Fred collection so if you have any of the following, please give me a shout off the list, with how many pennies you want for each :) Fred 1-14, 16, 18-26, 28, 30-34, 52, 53, 57-59, 73, 71 Thankies, Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 12:26:42 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA16456 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0D1DVM; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:37 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15BQbpX009950 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:23 +0100 Received: from mxzilla3.xs4all.nl ([IPv6:::ffff:194.109.6.49]:39942 "EHLO mxzilla3.xs4all.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:08 +0100 Received: from webmail3.xs4all.nl (webmail2.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.35] (may be forged)) by mxzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h15BQ8CP085429 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:08 +0100 (CET) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by webmail3.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h15BQ8971051; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from egmond@xs4all.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail3.xs4all.nl: nobody set sender to egmond@xs4all.nl using -f Received: from 62.58.80.100 (SquirrelMail authenticated user egmond) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <14419.62.58.80.100.1044444368.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <2E7A6F48-38F9-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> References: <2E7A6F48-38F9-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:26:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Freds wanted From: egmond@xs4all.nl To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.3.2 [CVS-DEVEL]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 357 Status: RO Why not download them and write the images to disks? http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/fred/ Frans > I'm looking to complete my Fred collection so if you have any of the > following, please give me a shout off the list, with how many pennies > you want for each :) > > Fred 1-14, 16, 18-26, 28, 30-34, 52, 53, 57-59, 73, 71 > > Thankies, > Gavin > > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 12:29:49 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA16565 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:29:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TMTXF; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:29:48 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15BTlA1016139 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:29:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:29:35 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:15633 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-113" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:29:20 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:29:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:28:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <14419.62.58.80.100.1044444368.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 638 Status: RO Cos I'm sad and I want the originals :) Especially 22... (Oh and I made a mistake, I've got 34, my favourite issue...) Didn't top posting used to be frowned upon on this list? Gavin On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:26 am, egmond@xs4all.nl wrote: > Why not download them and write the images to disks? > > http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/fred/ > > Frans > > >> I'm looking to complete my Fred collection so if you have any of the >> following, please give me a shout off the list, with how many pennies >> you want for each :) >> >> Fred 1-14, 16, 18-26, 28, 30-34, 52, 53, 57-59, 73, 71 >> >> Thankies, >> Gavin >> >> > > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 12:41:23 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA17209 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:41:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVVA8D; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:41:19 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15BfIA1021276 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:41:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:41:05 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:212.187.163.26] ([IPv6:::ffff:212.187.163.26]:58892 "HELO mailserver2.directline.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:40:56 +0100 Subject: Re: Freds wanted To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: From: Dan.Doore@directline.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:38:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Return-Path: Dan.Doore@directline.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1643 Status: RO > Cos I'm sad and I want the originals :) Heh heh heh. > Especially 22... Issue 22 - didn't that had a hideous bug in the menu that locked it if you pressed a key more than once? > (Oh and I made a mistake, I've got 34, my favourite issue...) Gotta be issue 3 (the first one I ever got) cos it had LI's Tetris on it and I was blown away.... > Didn't top posting used to be frowned upon on this list? Probably in Brian Gaff's time DON'T POST BINARIES Dan. Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. 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From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 12:49:44 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA17414 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:49:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0D1KJX; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:49:35 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15BnWpX023281 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:49:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:49:19 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:35345 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:49:06 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:48:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:48:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 910 Status: RO On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:38 am, Dan.Doore@directline.com wrote: > >> Cos I'm sad and I want the originals :) > > Heh heh heh. Oh and also, I've only got access to an iMac (no floppy drive) and a RiscPC (no suitable software) so I can't write the disk anyway... >> Especially 22... > > Issue 22 - didn't that had a hideous bug in the menu that locked it if > you > pressed a key more than once? No idea, but it does have Toxic Elephant on it, which was my favourite Speccy demo of all time :) >> (Oh and I made a mistake, I've got 34, my favourite issue...) > > Gotta be issue 3 (the first one I ever got) cos it had LI's Tetris on > it > and I was blown away.... 34 was my first! I actually think it was possibly the first disk I inserted in my shiny new SAM back then. Fred 50 probably contained the best game on any Fred - Derf! I loved it - Matt Round = Gamesmaster God. Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 13:15:41 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA18315 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TNAK2; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:37 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15CFbA1007725 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:24 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:212.187.163.26] ([IPv6:::ffff:212.187.163.26]:60422 "HELO mailserver2.directline.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:07 +0100 Subject: Re: Freds wanted To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: From: Dan.Doore@directline.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:06:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Return-Path: Dan.Doore@directline.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1430 Status: RO > Fred 50 probably contained the best game on any Fred - Derf! I loved it - Matt Round = Gamesmaster God. Mr Round did make some superb stuff didn't he, I remember a demo of 'Retros' on one of the Freds and I was gutted that it never came out as a full product. Dan Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. All are members of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. 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From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 13:19:40 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA18341 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:19:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVVKM0; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:19:36 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15CJZpX012427 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:19:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:19:24 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:2578 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:19:13 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:19:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:18:41 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 450 Status: RO >> Fred 50 probably contained the best game on any Fred - Derf! I loved >> it - > Matt Round = Gamesmaster God. > > Mr Round did make some superb stuff didn't he, I remember a demo of > 'Retros' on one of the Freds and I was gutted that it never came out > as a > full product. Yeah, Retros looked fab. All his games were so neat, well presented and often quite original. He made Gamesmaster look good! :) Remember One Man And His Frog? Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 13:28:04 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA18725 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:28:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TNFR6; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:28:00 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15CRxpX017548 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:27:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:27:44 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:7693 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:27:32 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:27:30 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27C@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:27:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD11.F3022F60" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1610 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD11.F3022F60 Content-Type: text/plain >Yeah, Retros looked fab. All his games were so neat, well presented and >often quite original. He made Gamesmaster look good! :) > >Remember One Man And His Frog? I'd love to find a TnT disc image. I'm afraid my PC won't make an image of my SAM disc of it because it's not a manky old 486 which seems to be the only thing I could get that disc imaging program to work on... Bah! Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD11.F3022F60 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted

>Yeah, Retros looked fab. All his games were so = neat, well presented and
>often quite original. He made Gamesmaster look = good! :)
>
>Remember One Man And His Frog?

I'd love to find a TnT disc image. I'm afraid my PC = won't make an image of my SAM disc of it because it's not a manky old = 486 which seems to be the only thing I could get that disc imaging = program to work on... Bah!

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD11.F3022F60-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 13:47:57 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA19555 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0D18HJ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:56 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15ClupX000270 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:41 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:212.187.163.26] ([IPv6:::ffff:212.187.163.26]:58639 "HELO mailserver2.directline.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:36 +0100 Subject: RE: Freds wanted To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: From: Dan.Doore@directline.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:32:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Return-Path: Dan.Doore@directline.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1562 Status: RO > I'd love to find a TnT disc image. TnT - Wasn't that the BombJack clone? > I'm afraid my PC won't make an image of my SAM disc of it because it's not > a manky old 486 which seems to be the only thing I could get that disc imaging program to work on... Bah If you have access to a W9x machine try this: http://home.wanadoo.nl/edwin.blink/samcoupe/software/diskmanager/diskmanager.htm Dan. Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. All are members of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you should notify us immediately and delete it. You should not copy, print, distribute, disclose or use any part of it. We reserve the right to monitor and record all electronic communications through our networks. We cannot accept any liability for viruses transmitted via this e-mail once it has left our networks. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:00:42 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA19954 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat2.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JVVHP; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:37 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15D0bpX008565 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:26 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:62994 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:05 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:00:03 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27D@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:00:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD16.7ED50720" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 3123 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD16.7ED50720 Content-Type: text/plain >> I'd love to find a TnT disc image. > >TnT - Wasn't that the BombJack clone? Yup, and very lovely it was, too. Mind you, I remember Santa Goes Psycho 2 as being great but I replayed it recently and it wasn't. At all. Of all the GM games, I reckon "Blast!" was one of the better ones. >> I'm afraid my PC won't make an image of my SAM disc of it because it's >not > >> a manky old 486 which seems to be the only thing I could get that disc >imaging program to work on... Bah > >If you have access to a W9x machine try this: > >http://home.wanadoo.nl/edwin.blink/samcoupe/software/diskmanager/diskmanage >r.htm I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my mum's house and so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her 'pooter. I wonder if there's anything else in my collection I'll need to disc-image? Stuff like Waterworks 1 & 2 and Sam Strikes Out would be nice... Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD16.7ED50720 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted

>> I'd love to find a TnT disc image.
>
>TnT - Wasn't that the BombJack clone?

Yup, and very lovely it was, too. Mind you, I = remember Santa Goes Psycho 2 as being great but I replayed it recently = and it wasn't. At all.

Of all the GM games, I reckon "Blast!" was = one of the better ones.

>> I'm afraid my PC won't make an image of my = SAM disc of it because it's
>not
>
>> a manky old 486 which seems to be the only = thing I could get that disc
>imaging program to work on... Bah
>
>If you have access to a W9x machine try = this:
>
>http://home.wanadoo.nl/edwin.blink/samcoupe/software/d= iskmanager/diskmanage
>r.htm

I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my = mum's house and so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her = 'pooter.

I wonder if there's anything else in my collection = I'll need to disc-image? Stuff like Waterworks 1 & 2 and Sam = Strikes Out would be nice...

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD16.7ED50720-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:03:03 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA19967 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:03:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DFCAN; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:59 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15D2xA1000473 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:47 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:11795 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:32 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:02:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:01:59 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--429073309 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27D@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: <033C6F68-390A-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 700 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-2--429073309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my mum's house and > so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her 'pooter. I can get the discs for you, as I'll be seeing her tonight *f'nar* --Apple-Mail-2--429073309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my mum's house and so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her 'pooter. I can get the discs for you, as I'll be seeing her tonight *f'nar* --Apple-Mail-2--429073309-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:04:11 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA19974 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DFCMX; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:10 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15D4AA1001109 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:03:47 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.92]:60098 "EHLO carbon.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:03:40 +0100 Received: from host81-132-68-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.132.68.155] helo=adrianbrown) by carbon.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18gPDG-0003Dr-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:03:39 +0000 From: "Adrian Brown" To: Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:03:41 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CD17.026831C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27D@powell.zedtwo.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 8857 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CD17.026831C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found that if you use a 98 boot disk the old dos transfer programs work. A. -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 05 February 2003 13:00 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Freds wanted >> I'd love to find a TnT disc image. > >TnT - Wasn't that the BombJack clone? Yup, and very lovely it was, too. Mind you, I remember Santa Goes Psycho 2 as being great but I replayed it recently and it wasn't. At all. Of all the GM games, I reckon "Blast!" was one of the better ones. >> I'm afraid my PC won't make an image of my SAM disc of it because it's >not > >> a manky old 486 which seems to be the only thing I could get that disc >imaging program to work on... Bah > >If you have access to a W9x machine try this: > >http://home.wanadoo.nl/edwin.blink/samcoupe/software/diskmanager/diskma nage >r.htm I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my mum's house and so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her 'pooter. I wonder if there's anything else in my collection I'll need to disc-image? Stuff like Waterworks 1 & 2 and Sam Strikes Out would be nice... Graham ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CD17.026831C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted

I found that if you use a 98 boot = disk the old dos transfer programs work.

 

A.

 

---= --Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: 05 February 2003 = 13:00
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: Freds = wanted

 

>> I'd love to find a TnT disc = image.
>
>TnT - Wasn't that = the BombJack clone?

Yup, and very lovely it was, too. Mind you, I = remember Santa Goes Psycho 2 as being great but I replayed it recently and it = wasn't. At all.

Of all the GM games, I reckon = "Blast!" was one of the better ones.

>> I'm afraid my PC won't make an image = of my SAM disc of it because it's
>not =
>
>> a manky old 486 = which seems to be the only thing I could get that disc
>imaging program to = work on... Bah
>
>If you have access = to a W9x machine try this:
>
>http://home.wanadoo.nl/edwin.blink/samcoupe/software/di= skmanager/diskmanage
>r.htm =

I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs = are at my mum's house and so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her = 'pooter.

I wonder if there's anything else in my = collection I'll need to disc-image? Stuff like Waterworks 1 & 2 and Sam Strikes = Out would be nice...

Graham

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2CD17.026831C0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:04:43 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA19980 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat2.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JVWT1; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:42 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15D4fpX011311 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:29 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:9988 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:15 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:04:14 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27E@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:04:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.148AD560" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 5549 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.148AD560 Content-Type: text/plain You can grab those FRED's then. They're upstairs in the box-room. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] Sent: 05 February 2003 13:02 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my mum's house and so when I see her in a month I'll have to use her 'pooter. I can get the discs for you, as I'll be seeing her tonight *f'nar* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.148AD560 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You can grab those FRED's then. They're upstairs in the box-room. ;)

 

=

-----Original = Message-----
From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org]
Sent: 05 February 2003 = 13:02
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Freds = wanted

 

 

I assume that includes WinME? Only my discs are at my mum's house and so when I = see her in a month I'll have to use her 'pooter.

 

I can get the discs for you, as I'll be seeing her tonight *f'nar* =

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.148AD560-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:08:27 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20103 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:08:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TNSQT; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:08:23 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15D8MA1003116 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:08:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:08:01 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:212.187.183.152] ([IPv6:::ffff:212.187.183.152]:36105 "HELO mailserver.directline.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:07:55 +0100 Subject: RE: Freds wanted To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: From: Dan.Doore@directline.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:06:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Return-Path: Dan.Doore@directline.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1221 Status: RO > I assume that includes WinME? I believe so. Dan. Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. All are members of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you should notify us immediately and delete it. You should not copy, print, distribute, disclose or use any part of it. 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From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:09:58 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20109 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat2.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JVYBR; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:54 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15D9rpX014604 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:42 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:11781 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:09:37 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:09:36 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27F@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:09:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.D3365390" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1657 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.D3365390 Content-Type: text/plain >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Doore@directline.com [mailto:Dan.Doore@directline.com] >Sent: 05 February 2003 13:06 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: RE: Freds wanted > > >> I assume that includes WinME? > >I believe so. Hurrah! Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT and Waterworks 1/2 these days? Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.D3365390 Content-Type: text/html RE: Freds wanted

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan.Doore@directline.com [mailto:Dan.Doore@directline.com]
>Sent: 05 February 2003 13:06
>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE: Freds wanted
>
>
>> I assume that includes WinME?
>
>I believe so.

Hurrah!

Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT and Waterworks 1/2 these days?

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD17.D3365390-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:14:25 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20282 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:14:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DFFJS; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:14:20 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DEJpX017414 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:14:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:14:06 +0100 Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.193]:15501 "HELO pengo.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:13:51 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-246-53.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.246.53]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ECA44C00589 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:13:48 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000c01c2cd18$a6bb5800$35f65651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27F@powell.zedtwo.local> Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:15:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 365 Status: RO > Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT and Waterworks 1/2 these > days? I would assume that the copyright would have long gone back to the original authors - Matt Round and Martin Bell. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:16:37 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20404 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:16:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TNVM1; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:16:33 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DGWpX018647 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:16:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:16:17 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:50438 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:16:12 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E280@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:16:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD18.BF8B6CD0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 3018 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD18.BF8B6CD0 Content-Type: text/plain Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all... Graham >-----Original Message----- >From: Colin Piggot [mailto:quazar@clara.net] >Sent: 05 February 2003 13:15 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: Re: Freds wanted > >> Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT and Waterworks 1/2 >these >> days? > >I would assume that the copyright would have long gone back to the original >authors - Matt Round and Martin Bell. > >Colin >==== >Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam >Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ >Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD18.BF8B6CD0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted

Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but = Martin Bell is another proposition altogether as I've no idea what he = did after the SAM. There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and = Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the = same one at all...

Graham

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Colin Piggot [mailto:quazar@clara.net]
>Sent: 05 February 2003 13:15
>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: Re: Freds wanted
>
>> Anyone know the copyright status on things = like TnT and Waterworks 1/2
>these
>> days?
>
>I would assume that the copyright would have = long gone back to the original
>authors - Matt Round and Martin Bell.
>
>Colin
>=3D=3D=3D=3D
>Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs = for the Sam
>Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
>Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine = Out Now !

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD18.BF8B6CD0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:20:10 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20466 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:20:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DFG0W; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:20:09 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DK8pX020757 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:20:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:19:56 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:3076 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:19:43 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:19:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:19:09 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--428043437 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E280@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: <691650F7-390C-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1187 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-6--428043437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: > Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another > proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. > There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while > (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all... Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma alone, promise) Gavin --Apple-Mail-6--428043437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all... Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma alone, promise) Gavin --Apple-Mail-6--428043437-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:21:39 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20545 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DFHMV; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:38 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DLcpX021560 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:26 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:48135 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:16 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:21:14 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E281@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:21:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD19.74827B60" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 6128 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD19.74827B60 Content-Type: text/plain For which one? -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] Sent: 05 February 2003 13:19 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all... Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma alone, promise) Gavin ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD19.74827B60 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For which = one?

 

=

-----Original = Message-----
From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org]
Sent: 05 February 2003 = 13:19
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Freds = wanted

 

On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: =

 

Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another = proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin = Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but = I dunno' if it's the same one at all...

 

Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma = alone, promise)

 

Gavin

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD19.74827B60-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:25:44 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20667 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:25:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JV7SP; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:25:43 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DPhA1011322 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:25:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:25:31 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:19716 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:25:14 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:25:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:24:40 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--427712235 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E281@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: <2E7F7EF6-390D-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 2687 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-8--427712235 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed For Matt...(honestly, I will leave your ma alone tonight...) On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:21 pm, Graham Goring wrote: > For which one? > > =A0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] > Sent: 05 February 2003 13:19 > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: Re: Freds wanted > > =A0 > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: > > =A0 > > Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another=20= > proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM.=20 > There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while=20= > (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all... > > =A0 > > Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your=20= > ma alone, promise) > > =A0 > > Gavin > --Apple-Mail-8--427712235 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 For Matt...(honestly, I will leave your ma alone tonight...) On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:21 pm, Graham Goring wrote: = Arial0000,0000,8080For which one? = Arial0000,0000,8080=A0 -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] Sent: 05 February 2003 13:19 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted Times New Roman=A0 Times New RomanOn Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: Times New Roman=A0 Times New RomanAh. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all...=20 Times New Roman=A0 Times New RomanDo you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma alone, promise) = Times New Roman=A0 Times New RomanGavin = --Apple-Mail-8--427712235-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:28:24 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20691 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:28:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JV8MQ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:28:23 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DSMA1012578 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:28:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:28:10 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:7945 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:28:06 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:28:04 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E282@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:28:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.694EC950" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 12534 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.694EC950 Content-Type: text/plain Last time I e-mailed him (a while ago) it was matt.round@malevolent.com His webpage is still there, so it probably still works. Graham -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] Sent: 05 February 2003 13:25 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted For Matt...(honestly, I will leave your ma alone tonight...) On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:21 pm, Graham Goring wrote: For which one? -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] Sent: 05 February 2003 13:19 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but I dunno' if it's the same one at all... Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma alone, promise) Gavin ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.694EC950 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Last time I e-mailed him (a while = ago) it was matt.round@malevolent.com<= o:p>

 

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His webpage is still there, so it = probably still works.

 

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Graham

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-----Original = Message-----
From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org]
Sent: = 05= February 2003 13= :25
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Freds = wanted

 

For Matt...(honestly, I will leave your ma alone tonight...) =

 

On Wednesday, February 5, = 2003, at 01:21 pm, Graham Goring wrote: =

 

For which one?

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] =

Sent: 05 February = 2003 13:19 =

To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no

Subject: Re: Freds wanted =

 

 

 

On Wednesday, February 5, = 2003, at 01:16 pm, Graham Goring wrote: =

 

 

 

Ah. Well, I could easily contact Matt Round but Martin Bell is another = proposition altogether as I've no idea what he did after the SAM. There's a Martin = Bell who worked for Bullfrog and Lionhead for a while (now at Big Blue Box) but = I dunno' if it's the same one at all...

 

 

 

Do you have an email address for him? Can I have it? (I'll leave your ma = alone, promise)

 

 

 

Gavin

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.694EC950-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:30:54 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20831 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:30:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TN5CM; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:30:53 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DUrpX027365 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:30:53 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:30:32 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:36100 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:30:26 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:30:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:29:51 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--427401963 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E282@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1302 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-10--427401963 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:28 pm, Graham Goring wrote: > Last time I e-mailed him (a while ago) it was = matt.round@malevolent.com > > =A0 > > His webpage is still there, so it probably still works. Thanks! I've never been to his site before! PS. I've already had her= --Apple-Mail-10--427401963 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:28 pm, Graham Goring wrote: = Arial0000,0000,8080Last time I e-mailed him (a while ago) it was = 0000,0000,FFFF= matt.round@malevolent.com = Arial0000,0000,8080=A0 = Arial0000,0000,8080His webpage is still there, so it probably still = works. Thanks! I've never been to his site before! PS. I've already had her= --Apple-Mail-10--427401963-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:31:59 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20842 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:31:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVV8RB; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:31:54 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DVspX028004 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:31:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:31:41 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:62729 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:31:33 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:31:31 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E284@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:31:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.E4D45680" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 3941 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.E4D45680 Content-Type: text/plain Was she as loose as your mum was with me? Thanks! I've never been to his site before! PS. I've already had her ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.E4D45680 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Was she as loose as your mum was = with me?

 

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Thanks! I've never been to his site before!

 

PS. I've already had her

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1A.E4D45680-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:33:42 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA20860 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:33:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVV9AW; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:33:41 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DVspY028004 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:33:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:33:32 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:40452 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-113" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:33:20 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:33:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:32:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--427222907 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E284@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: <52294695-390E-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1305 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-12--427222907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed She was when I finished with her. *coughs* Anyone wanna sell me a copy of Days of Sorcery? :) On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:31 pm, Graham Goring wrote: > Was she as loose as your mum was with me? > > =A0 > > Thanks! I've never been to his site before! > > =A0 > > PS. I've already had her > --Apple-Mail-12--427222907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 She was when I finished with her. *coughs* Anyone wanna sell me a copy of Days of Sorcery? :) On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:31 pm, Graham Goring wrote: = Arial0000,0000,8080Was she as loose as your mum was with me? = Arial0000,0000,8080=A0 Times New RomanThanks! I've never been to his site before! Times New Roman=A0 Times New RomanPS. I've already had = her = --Apple-Mail-12--427222907-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:39:00 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21098 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:39:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TN714; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:38:56 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DcuA1018065 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:38:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:38:42 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:30219 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:38:35 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:38:31 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E285@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:38:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1B.DF6B7DD0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 7445 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1B.DF6B7DD0 Content-Type: text/plain What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell for some reason... -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org] Sent: 05 February 2003 13:33 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted She was when I finished with her. *coughs* Anyone wanna sell me a copy of Days of Sorcery? :) On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:31 pm, Graham Goring wrote: Was she as loose as your mum was with me? Thanks! I've never been to his site before! PS. I've already had her ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1B.DF6B7DD0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell for some = reason...

 

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-----Original = Message-----
From: Gavin Smith [mailto:email@gavin-smith.org]
Sent: 05 February 2003 = 13:33
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
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She was when I finished with her.

 

*coughs*

 

Anyone wanna sell me a copy of Days of Sorcery? :) =

 

On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:31 pm, Graham Goring wrote: =

 

Was she as loose as your mum was with = me?

 

 

 

Thanks! I've never been to his site before!

 

 

 

PS. I've already had her

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1B.DF6B7DD0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:42:46 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21256 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:42:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TN8C6; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:42:45 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DgjpX004660 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:42:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:42:22 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:52228 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-113" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:42:08 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:42:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:41:38 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--426694743 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E285@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: <8CF8D791-390F-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1230 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-14--426694743 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:38 pm, Graham Goring wrote: > What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell for some reason... Absolutely gorgeous looking adventure thing. There's a demo on Fred 34 and I meant to get around to buying it for years, but never did. Plus great music (that Colin P says possibly isn't original and he heard on a Speccy demo once) Nigel Kettlewell or something similar wrote it... --Apple-Mail-14--426694743 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:38 pm, Graham Goring wrote: Arial0000,0000,8080What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell for some reason... Absolutely gorgeous looking adventure thing. There's a demo on Fred 34 and I meant to get around to buying it for years, but never did. Plus great music (that Colin P says possibly isn't original and he heard on a Speccy demo once) Nigel Kettlewell or something similar wrote it... --Apple-Mail-14--426694743-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:44:03 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21262 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:44:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TN83N; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:44:02 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DgjpY004660 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:44:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:43:48 +0100 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.9]:58333 "EHLO shockwave.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:43:27 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-246-53.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.246.53]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DB9B1600B66C for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:43:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000801c2cd1c$c9b5abe0$35f65651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E285@powell.zedtwo.local> Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:45:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 351 Status: RO > What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell for some reason... A text / graphics Adventure game released in 1993 by Nigel Kettlewell - a viewable info demo is on Fred34 iirc and SCPDU 5. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:47:08 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21386 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:47:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TN9JP; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:47:07 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15Dl7A1022635 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:47:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:46:45 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:19981 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:46:38 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:46:36 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E287@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:46:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1D.0049D6E0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1772 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1D.0049D6E0 Content-Type: text/plain >> What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell for some reason... > >A text / graphics Adventure game released in 1993 by Nigel Kettlewell - a >viewable info demo is on Fred34 iirc and SCPDU 5. I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably typed about 3 words into the demo and never bothered again (text adventures weren't my bag). I have a weird memory of seeing the box for it, so either James Curry had a copy of it or I just saw it at a S&S Show... Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1D.0049D6E0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted

>> What was Days Of Sorcery? It rings a bell = for some reason...
>
>A text / graphics Adventure game released in = 1993 by Nigel Kettlewell - a
>viewable info demo is on Fred34 iirc and SCPDU = 5.

I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably = typed about 3 words into the demo and never bothered again (text = adventures weren't my bag). I have a weird memory of seeing the box for = it, so either James Curry had a copy of it or I just saw it at a = S&S Show...

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1D.0049D6E0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:45:51 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21379 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:45:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DF33L; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:45:47 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DjkA1021957 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:45:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:45:35 +0100 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.9]:45534 "EHLO shockwave.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:45:16 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-246-53.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.246.53]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E81571600B96D for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:45:15 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <001301c2cd1d$0b8c87a0$35f65651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <8CF8D791-390F-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:46:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 672 Status: RO > Absolutely gorgeous looking adventure thing. There's a demo on Fred 34 > and I meant to get around to buying it for years, but never did. Plus > great music (that Colin P says possibly isn't original and he heard on > a Speccy demo once) Aye, it was a demo from poland or somewhere if i remember correctly - it's been a while since I last watched lots of 128k music demos. Have to have a hunt for it again... don't know when the demo was released tho - perhaps it was converted to the speccy - who knows! Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:51:49 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21524 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JW1T2; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:45 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DpeA1025195 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:19 +0100 Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.193]:47516 "HELO pengo.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:13 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-246-53.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.246.53]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E7E74C0064C for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000e01c2cd1d$e01df300$35f65651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E287@powell.zedtwo.local> Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:52:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h15DpeA1025195 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by edh3.edh.ericsson.se id OAA21524 Content-Length: 668 Status: RO > I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably typed about 3 words into > the demo and never bothered again (text adventures weren't my bag). Don't think that was the D.O.S. demo ... as that was just watchable as the text talked about the adventure and the parser, colour options etc.. etc... There was later adventure stuff on the Fred mag from what I remember - around issue 40 I seem to remember a BASIC adventure writing program, or the infamous 'Spam Soufflé' adventure from the Sam Newsdisk. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 14:55:27 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21653 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:55:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat2.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JWF9M; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:55:26 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15DtPpX012714 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:55:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:55:12 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:63758 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:55:04 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:55:03 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E288@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:55:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.2DDE94F0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 2162 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.2DDE94F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >There was later adventure stuff on the Fred mag from what I remember - >around >issue 40 I seem to remember a BASIC adventure writing program, or the >infamous >'Spam Souffl=E9' adventure from the Sam Newsdisk. > >Colin I love the term "Spam Souffl=E9". :) The best ever adventure thing was William McGugan's unfinished = MasterBasic adventure program. It was great but thanks to SAM BASIC's somewhat = unstable nature his saved version of it got kinda' munged. It was really great, though. I wrote a little adventure in it and really liked it. Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.2DDE94F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted

>There was later adventure stuff on the Fred mag = from what I remember -
>around
>issue 40 I seem to remember a BASIC adventure = writing program, or the
>infamous
>'Spam Souffl=E9' adventure from the Sam = Newsdisk.
>
>Colin

I love the term "Spam Souffl=E9". :)

The best ever adventure thing was William McGugan's = unfinished MasterBasic adventure program. It was great but thanks to = SAM BASIC's somewhat unstable nature his saved version of it got kinda' = munged. It was really great, though. I wrote a little adventure in it = and really liked it.

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.2DDE94F0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 15:00:05 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA21760 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVW1ZQ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:01 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15E01pX015721 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:01 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:59:46 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:21509 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:59:39 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:59:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:59:05 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <000e01c2cd1d$e01df300$35f65651@trout> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 519 Status: RO On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:52 pm, Colin Piggot wrote: >> I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably typed about 3 words >> into >> the demo and never bothered again (text adventures weren't my bag). > > Don't think that was the D.O.S. demo ... as that was just watchable as > the text > talked about the adventure and the parser, colour options etc.. etc... Yeah, but I think there's a bit where you can type a few lines near the end of the demo. Just to see how the text looked or something. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 15:01:03 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA21846 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:01:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat2.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JWH41; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:59 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15E0xpX016224 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:47 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:21520 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:36 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:35 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E28A@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:00:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.F41D2960" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 2113 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.F41D2960 Content-Type: text/plain >On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:52 pm, Colin Piggot wrote: > >>> I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably typed about 3 words >>> into >>> the demo and never bothered again (text adventures weren't my bag). >> >> Don't think that was the D.O.S. demo ... as that was just watchable as >> the text >> talked about the adventure and the parser, colour options etc.. etc... > >Yeah, but I think there's a bit where you can type a few lines near the >end of the demo. Just to see how the text looked or something. What a crappy demo! Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.F41D2960 Content-Type: text/html RE: Freds wanted

>On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:52  pm, Colin Piggot wrote:
>
>>> I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably typed about 3 words
>>> into
>>> the demo and never bothered again (text adventures weren't my bag).
>>
>> Don't think that was the D.O.S. demo ... as that was just watchable as
>> the text
>> talked about the adventure and the parser, colour options etc.. etc...
>
>Yeah, but I think there's a bit where you can type a few lines near the
>end of the demo. Just to see how the text looked or something.

What a crappy demo!

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CD1E.F41D2960-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 15:03:35 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA21858 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:03:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DFT72; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:03:31 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15E3VA1001358 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:03:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:03:19 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7] ([IPv6:::ffff:64.239.99.7]:27141 "EHLO mango.catalyst2.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-113" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:03:10 +0100 Received: from gavin-smith.org ([81.152.76.79]) by mango.catalyst2.com (Merak 5.5.5) with SMTP id HTI73833 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:03:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:02:39 +0000 Subject: Re: Freds wanted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16--425433626 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Gavin Smith To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E28A@powell.zedtwo.local> Message-Id: <7CA7FE58-3912-11D7-AADC-000502037ABA@gavin-smith.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 950 Status: RO --Apple-Mail-16--425433626 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >Yeah, but I think there's a bit where you can type a few lines near > the > >end of the demo. Just to see how the text looked or something. > > What a crappy demo! No!! It was gorgeous! The screens are really nicely drawn, the music very atmospheric, I still don't understand why I never got around to buying it. --Apple-Mail-16--425433626 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII >Yeah, but I think there's a bit where you can type a few lines near the >end of the demo. Just to see how the text looked or something. What a crappy demo! No!! It was gorgeous! The screens are really nicely drawn, the music very atmospheric, I still don't understand why I never got around to buying it. --Apple-Mail-16--425433626-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 15:04:31 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA21866 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:04:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat6.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.123]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5JW2PA; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:04:30 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15E4UA1001871 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:04:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:04:09 +0100 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.9]:43750 "EHLO shockwave.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:04:01 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-246-53.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.246.53]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D6D01600B724 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <001001c2cd1f$a9e48040$35f65651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:05:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 391 Status: RO > Yeah, but I think there's a bit where you can type a few lines near the > end of the demo. Just to see how the text looked or something. Go and load it up - I always remember it being just watchable! It did all the 'typing'! Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 22:23:30 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id WAA03347 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:23:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVYY36; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:23:26 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15LNPpX005233 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:23:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:22:58 +0100 Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:195.92.195.174]:56839 "EHLO cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:22:50 +0100 Received: from modem-1608.llama.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.182.72] helo=BOB) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18gX0K-0000j2-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:22:48 +0000 Message-ID: <005301c2cd5c$e2a27c60$0100a8c0@BOB> From: "Tim P" To: References: Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:23:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 511 Status: RO > DON'T POST BINARIES sigs shouldn't be more than 4 lines long ;-) I'm proud to say I have every fred, and the first 20 (the ones before I subbed) where, urm, individually mastered for my personal collection (i.e. At some point I gave Colin 20 blank disks, and got fresh copies of them all as part of some bigger deal). Of course, they where HD disks, so my Sam didn't like half of them. Hurrah for DSK. Tim (who knows there was never a GamesMASTER game to beat EGGBuM) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 5 22:41:52 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id WAA03839 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:41:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5TQ050; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:41:47 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h15LflpX011209 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:41:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:41:34 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([IPv6:::ffff:212.74.114.38]:781 "EHLO mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:41:28 +0100 Received: from [80.225.57.29] (helo=estella) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18gXGa-000NuZ-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:39:37 +0000 From: "Justin Skists" To: Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:38:38 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <000e01c2cd1d$e01df300$35f65651@trout> Importance: Normal X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h15LflpX011209 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by edh3.edh.ericsson.se id WAA03839 Content-Length: 956 Status: RO I remember Spam Souffle.. wasn't there a picture of somebody's Mini Coupe in it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no]On Behalf Of Colin Piggot Sent: 05 February 2003 13:52 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Freds wanted > I seem to recall it now, yeah. I think I probably typed about 3 words into > the demo and never bothered again (text adventures weren't my bag). Don't think that was the D.O.S. demo ... as that was just watchable as the text talked about the adventure and the parser, colour options etc.. etc... There was later adventure stuff on the Fred mag from what I remember - around issue 40 I seem to remember a BASIC adventure writing program, or the infamous 'Spam Soufflé' adventure from the Sam Newsdisk. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 6 02:07:53 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id CAA09178 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:07:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MVZSN9; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:07:48 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1617lpX010912 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:07:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:07:32 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.92]:62854 "EHLO carbon.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:07:18 +0100 Received: from dial81-131-17-123.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.17.123] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18gaVR-0003VM-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:07:10 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c2cd7c$131d6ed0$7b118351@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: References: Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:07:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 297 Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Skists" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: RE: Freds wanted I remember Spam Souffle.. wasn't there a picture of somebody's Mini Coupe in it? -------- Colin Jordans I think... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 6 02:09:25 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id CAA09186 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (alteon-nat3.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.119]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DJGM2; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:21 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1617lpY010912 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:12 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.92]:10389 "EHLO carbon.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:09:01 +0100 Received: from dial81-131-17-123.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.17.123] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18gaXD-0003bI-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:08:59 +0000 Message-ID: <00f501c2cd7c$54729770$7b118351@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27F@powell.zedtwo.local> <000c01c2cd18$a6bb5800$35f65651@trout> Subject: Re: Freds wanted Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:08:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 599 Status: RO Original Message ----- From: "Colin Piggot" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Freds wanted > > Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT and Waterworks 1/2 these > > days? > > I would assume that the copyright would have long gone back to the original > authors - Matt Round and Martin Bell. > > Colin > ==== > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ > Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! > I dunno - best check with Colin McD on that :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 7 00:41:05 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id AAA25373 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:41:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0DR9KY; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:41:00 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h16NexpX007043 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:40:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:40:36 +0100 Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:195.188.53.94]:54030 "EHLO blueyonder.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:40:31 +0100 Received: from fatfreddy ([80.195.1.176]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:39:50 +0000 From: "Colin Macdonald" To: Subject: RE: Freds wanted Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:37:40 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F6_01C2CE38.BD52B600" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E27F@powell.zedtwo.local> X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 3745 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F6_01C2CE38.BD52B600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: Freds wantedRe: Copyright. Yup, I think all the programming contracts have long expired by now so the rights to the code have gone back to the authors. The other parts of games that were paid for (art, audio, writing etc) were all bought outright so I guess I've still got the copyright on those, but I'd have no objections to any of the authors selling/giving away the games with all that in them - if someone can track them down and persuade them ;) C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no]On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 05 February 2003 13:10 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Freds wanted >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan.Doore@directline.com [mailto:Dan.Doore@directline.com] >Sent: 05 February 2003 13:06 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: RE: Freds wanted > > >> I assume that includes WinME? > >I believe so. Hurrah! Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT and Waterworks 1/2 these days? Graham ------=_NextPart_000_00F6_01C2CE38.BD52B600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Freds wanted
Re:=20 Copyright. Yup, I think all the programming contracts have long expired = by now=20 so the rights to the code have gone back to the authors. The other parts = of=20 games that were paid for (art, audio, writing etc) were all bought = outright so I=20 guess I've still got the copyright on those, but I'd have no objections = to any=20 of the authors selling/giving away the games with all that in them - if = someone=20 can track them down and persuade them ;)
 
C.
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From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no]On Behalf Of Graham=20 Goring
Sent: 05 February 2003 13:10
To:=20 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: Freds=20 wanted

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan.Doore@directline.com [mailto:Dan.Doore@directline.com<= /A>]=20
>Sent: 05 February 2003 13:06
>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE:=20 Freds wanted
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>> I assume that includes WinME? =
>
>I believe so.

Hurrah!

Anyone know the copyright status on things like TnT = and=20 Waterworks 1/2 these days?

Graham

------=_NextPart_000_00F6_01C2CE38.BD52B600-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 12:27:46 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA13820 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWSA7G; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:41 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1ABRfpX003056 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:27 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:40196 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:17 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1VJPBBAC>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:27:15 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EA@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:27:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D0F7.5C8CDC30" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1085 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D0F7.5C8CDC30 Content-Type: text/plain Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last I shall know how he did the water in Waterworks! Hurrah! Graham ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D0F7.5C8CDC30 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Waterworks

Well, it turns out that I managed to track down = Martin Bell and he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so = at last I shall know how he did the water in Waterworks! = Hurrah!

Graham

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D0F7.5C8CDC30-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 15:27:09 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA19610 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:27:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5K4LXN; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:27:04 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AER2A1027862 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:27:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:26:48 +0100 Received: from mxzilla1.xs4all.nl ([IPv6:::ffff:194.109.6.54]:22280 "EHLO mxzilla1.xs4all.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:26:38 +0100 Received: from webmail3.xs4all.nl (webmail2.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.35] (may be forged)) by mxzilla1.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AEQbUU010002 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:26:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by webmail3.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h1AEQbN92662; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:26:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from egmond@xs4all.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail3.xs4all.nl: nobody set sender to egmond@xs4all.nl using -f Received: from 62.58.80.100 (SquirrelMail authenticated user egmond) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:26:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <7402.62.58.80.100.1044887197.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EA@powell.zedtwo.local> References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EA@powell.zedtwo.local> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:26:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Waterworks From: egmond@xs4all.nl To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.3.2 [CVS-DEVEL]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 246 Status: RO > Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and he is the > chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last I shall know how he > did > the water in Waterworks! Hurrah! > > Graham > That is, assuming he'll tell you ! :-) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 15:28:25 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA19625 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:28:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWT4F8; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:28:21 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AESKpX020737 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:28:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:28:09 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:52236 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:27:49 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1VKKW97Z>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:27:47 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EE@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:27:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D110.94F96750" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 2086 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D110.94F96750 Content-Type: text/plain He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;) Graham >-----Original Message----- >From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl] >Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: Re: Waterworks > >> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and he is the >> chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last I shall know how he >> did >> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah! >> >> Graham >> > >That is, assuming he'll tell you ! > >:-) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D110.94F96750 Content-Type: text/html RE: Waterworks

He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;)

Graham

>-----Original Message-----
>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]
>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27
>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: Re: Waterworks
>
>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and he is the
>> chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last I shall know how he
>> did
>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah!
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
>That is, assuming he'll tell you !
>
>:-)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D110.94F96750-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 15:49:48 2003 Received: from esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.68]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA20218 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:49:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt611.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5K4SX2; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:49:44 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AEnhpX005606 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:49:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:49:31 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:195.82.107.103] ([IPv6:::ffff:195.82.107.103]:31160 "HELO grim.ws" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:49:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 25706 invoked by uid 33); 10 Feb 2003 14:49:19 -0000 Received: from 217.33.203.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user Tobermory) by secure.grim.ws with HTTP; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:49:19 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <16916.217.33.203.18.1044888559.squirrel@secure.grim.ws> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:49:19 -0000 (GMT) Subject: RE: Waterworks From: "Tobermory" To: In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EE@powell.zedtwo.local> References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EE@powell.zedtwo.local> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 737 Status: RO Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill beans! Graham Goring said: > He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;) > > Graham > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl] >>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27 >>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >>Subject: Re: Waterworks >> >>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and >>> he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last >>> I shall know how he did >>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah! >>> >>> Graham >>> >> >>That is, assuming he'll tell you ! >> >>:-) ------------------------------------------- http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out ------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 15:52:57 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA20358 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:52:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY5437HJ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:52:52 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AEqqpX007507 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:52:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:52:41 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:47632 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:52:26 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1VKKW98H>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:52:24 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EF@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:52:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.0435EFF0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 4632 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.0435EFF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. ;) It's actually dead simple and relies upon the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone wants to = see the principle in action. Once I fully understand it... Graham >-----Original Message----- >From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws] >Sent: 10 February 2003 14:49 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: RE: Waterworks > >Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill beans! > > >Graham Goring said: >> He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;) >> >> Graham >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl] >>>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27 >>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >>>Subject: Re: Waterworks >>> >>>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and >>>> he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last >>>> I shall know how he did >>>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah! >>>> >>>> Graham >>>> >>> >>>That is, assuming he'll tell you ! >>> >>>:-) > > >------------------------------------------- >http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in >http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out >------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.0435EFF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Waterworks

He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. = ;)

It's actually dead simple and relies upon the water = being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if = anyone wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand = it...

Graham

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]
>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:49
>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE: Waterworks
>
>Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill = beans!
>
>
>Graham Goring said:
>> He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;)
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]
>>>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27
>>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>>Subject: Re: Waterworks
>>>
>>>> Well, it turns out that I managed = to track down Martin Bell and
>>>> he is the chap who worked at = EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last
>>>> I shall know how he did
>>>> the water in Waterworks! = Hurrah!
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is, assuming he'll tell you = !
>>>
>>>:-)
>
>
>-------------------------------------------
>http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying = in
>http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going  = out
>-------------------------------------------

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.0435EFF0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:02:48 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA20682 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:02:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWT709; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:56:58 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AEurpX009989 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:56:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:56:42 +0100 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.111]:55445 "EHLO gadolinium.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:56:34 +0100 Received: from host81-132-100-242.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.132.100.242] helo=adrianbrown) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18iFMF-0002EU-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:56:32 +0000 From: "Adrian Brown" To: Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:56:52 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2D114.A5650F50" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2EF@powell.zedtwo.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 11752 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2D114.A5650F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not write an article in Sam Revival about it :-). Btw, am I missing something about this water, I don=92t see it being complex, but ive only played the demo =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 10 February 2003 14:52 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. ;)=20 It's actually dead simple and relies upon the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand it... Graham=20 >-----Original Message-----=20 >From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]=20 >Sent: 10 February 2003 14:49=20 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >Subject: RE: Waterworks=20 >=20 >Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill beans!=20 >=20 >=20 >Graham Goring said:=20 >> He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;)=20 >>=20 >> Graham=20 >>=20 >>>-----Original Message-----=20 >>>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]=20 >>>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27=20 >>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >>>Subject: Re: Waterworks=20 >>>=20 >>>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and=20 >>>> he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last=20 >>>> I shall know how he did=20 >>>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah!=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Graham=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>That is, assuming he'll tell you !=20 >>>=20 >>>:-)=20 >=20 >=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 >http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in=20 >http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2D114.A5650F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Waterworks

Why not write an article in Sam = Revival about it J.=A0 Btw, am I = missing something about this water, I don’t see it being complex, but = ive only played the = demo

 

---= --Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: 10 February 2003 = 14:52
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. = ;)

It's actually dead simple and relies upon the = water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone = wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand = it...

Graham

>-----Original Message----- =
>From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]
>Sent: 10 February = 2003 14:49
>To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE: = Waterworks
>
>Don't keep us = waiting, spill beans! spill beans!
>
>
>Graham Goring = said:
>> He did indeed = tell me, so nerr! ;)
>> =
>> = Graham
>> =
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: = egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]
>>>Sent: 10 = February 2003 14:27
>>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>>Subject: Re: = Waterworks
>>>
>>>> Well, = it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and
>>>> he is = the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last
>>>> I shall = know how he did
>>>> the = water in Waterworks! Hurrah!
>>>>
>>>> = Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is, = assuming he'll tell you !
>>>
>>>:-)
>
>
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>http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in
>http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going  out
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2D114.A5650F50-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 15:59:16 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA20505 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:59:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY54393F; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:59:15 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AExFpX011460 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:59:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:59:03 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:2834 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:58:49 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1VKKW98P>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:58:47 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2F0@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:58:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.E98A20D0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 16682 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.E98A20D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It wasn't really that complex, but I'm damned if I could figure out how = to program it myself. Bah! =20 I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only = wanted to know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that = the stuff in waterworks. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]=20 Sent: 10 February 2003 14:57 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 Why not write an article in Sam Revival about it :-). Btw, am I = missing something about this water, I don't see it being complex, but ive only played the demo =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] = On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 10 February 2003 14:52 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. ;)=20 It's actually dead simple and relies upon the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone wants to = see the principle in action. Once I fully understand it... Graham=20 >-----Original Message-----=20 >From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws ] = >Sent: 10 February 2003 14:49=20 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >Subject: RE: Waterworks=20 >=20 >Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill beans!=20 >=20 >=20 >Graham Goring said:=20 >> He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;)=20 >>=20 >> Graham=20 >>=20 >>>-----Original Message-----=20 >>>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl = ]=20 >>>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27=20 >>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >>>Subject: Re: Waterworks=20 >>>=20 >>>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and=20 >>>> he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last=20 >>>> I shall know how he did=20 >>>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah!=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Graham=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>That is, assuming he'll tell you !=20 >>>=20 >>>:-)=20 >=20 >=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 >http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - = Staying in=20 >http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - = Going out=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.E98A20D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Waterworks

It wasn't really that complex, but = I'm damned if I could figure out how to program it myself. = Bah!

 

=

I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted to know really as I = wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the PC/Archimedes and include = water in it that acted in a simlar way that the = stuff in waterworks.

 

=

-----Original = Message-----
From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]
Sent: = 10= February 2003 14= :57
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

Why not write an article in Sam = Revival about it J.=A0 Btw, am I = missing something about this water, I don't see it being complex, but ive only played the demo

 

=

--= ---Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: = 10= February 2003 14:52
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. = ;)

It's actually dead simple and relies upon = the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if = anyone wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand = it...

Graham

>-----Original Message----- =
>From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]
>Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:49
>To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE: = Waterworks
>
>Don't keep us = waiting, spill beans! spill beans!
>
>
>Graham Goring = said:
>> He did indeed = tell me, so nerr! ;)
>> =
>> = Graham
>> =
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: = egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]
>>>Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:27
>>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>>Subject: = Re: Waterworks
>>>
>>>> Well, = it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and
>>>> he is = the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last
>>>> I = shall know how he did
>>>> the = water in Waterworks! Hurrah!
>>>>
>>>> = Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is, = assuming he'll tell you !
>>>
>>>:-)
>
>
>-----------------------------------------= --
>http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in
>http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going  out
>-----------------------------------------= --

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D114.E98A20D0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:00:59 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA20662 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:00:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY54390N; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:00:58 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AF0vpX012673 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:00:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:00:44 +0100 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.111]:50391 "EHLO gadolinium.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:00:27 +0100 Received: from host81-132-100-242.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.132.100.242] helo=adrianbrown) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18iFQ2-0002dw-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:00:26 +0000 From: "Adrian Brown" To: Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:00:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2D115.310E62E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2F0@powell.zedtwo.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 18933 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2D115.310E62E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is always an article there =96 even if its only half a page, be = good to see some people writing stuff like that :-) =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 10 February 2003 14:59 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 It wasn't really that complex, but I'm damned if I could figure out how to program it myself. Bah! =20 I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted to know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that the stuff in waterworks. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]=20 Sent: 10 February 2003 14:57 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 Why not write an article in Sam Revival about it :-). Btw, am I missing something about this water, I don't see it being complex, but ive only played the demo =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 10 February 2003 14:52 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. ;)=20 It's actually dead simple and relies upon the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand it... Graham=20 >-----Original Message-----=20 >From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]=20 >Sent: 10 February 2003 14:49=20 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >Subject: RE: Waterworks=20 >=20 >Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill beans!=20 >=20 >=20 >Graham Goring said:=20 >> He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;)=20 >>=20 >> Graham=20 >>=20 >>>-----Original Message-----=20 >>>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]=20 >>>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27=20 >>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >>>Subject: Re: Waterworks=20 >>>=20 >>>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and=20 >>>> he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last=20 >>>> I shall know how he did=20 >>>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah!=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Graham=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>That is, assuming he'll tell you !=20 >>>=20 >>>:-)=20 >=20 >=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 >http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in=20 >http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2D115.310E62E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Waterworks

There is always an article there = – even if its only half a page, be good to see some people writing stuff = like that J

 

---= --Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: 10 February 2003 = 14:59
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

It wasn't really that complex, but I'm damned if I could figure out how to = program it myself. Bah!

 =

I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted to know = really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the PC/Archimedes = and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that the stuff in = waterworks.

 =

---= --Original Message-----
From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]
Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:= 57
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

Why not write an article in Sam Revival about it J.=A0 Btw, am I = missing something about this water, I don't see it being complex, but ive only = played the demo

 =

---= --Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:= 52
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. = ;)

It's actually dead simple and relies upon the = water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone = wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand = it...

Graham

>-----Original Message----- =
>From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]
>Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:49
>To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE: = Waterworks
>
>Don't keep us = waiting, spill beans! spill beans!
>
>
>Graham Goring = said:
>> He did indeed = tell me, so nerr! ;)
>> =
>> = Graham
>> =
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: = egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]
>>>Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:27
>>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>>Subject: Re: = Waterworks
>>>
>>>> Well, = it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and
>>>> he is = the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last
>>>> I shall = know how he did
>>>> the = water in Waterworks! Hurrah!
>>>>
>>>> = Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is, = assuming he'll tell you !
>>>
>>>:-)
>
>
>------------------------------------------= -
>http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in
>http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going  out
>------------------------------------------= -

------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2D115.310E62E0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:02:47 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA20676 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:02:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWT9FH; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:02:46 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AF2kA1016075 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:02:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:02:35 +0100 Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.193]:9638 "HELO pengo.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:02:18 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-248-213.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.248.213]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D57C4C00448 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <001001c2d115$a90b3e80$d5f85651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2F0@powell.zedtwo.local> Subject: Re: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:04:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 634 Status: RO Graham Goring said: > I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted to > know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the > PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that the > stuff in waterworks. Graham.. .could pass on my email address and web url to him - and ask him to get in touch if would like to answer some questions about his Sam work for an short interview / article for the magazine. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:14:59 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA20971 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:14:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MW4BHN; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:14:57 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AFEvpX021488 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:14:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:14:42 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:23301 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:14:25 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1VKKW985>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:14:24 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2F1@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:14:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.177064D0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 3070 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.177064D0 Content-Type: text/plain Sure, no problem. >-----Original Message----- >From: Colin Piggot [mailto:quazar@clara.net] >Sent: 10 February 2003 15:04 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: Re: Waterworks > >Graham Goring said: > >> I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted >to >> know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the >> PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that the >> stuff in waterworks. > >Graham.. .could pass on my email address and web url to him - and ask him >to get >in touch if would like to answer some questions about his Sam work for an >short >interview / article for the magazine. > >Colin >==== >Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam >Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ >Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.177064D0 Content-Type: text/html RE: Waterworks

Sure, no problem.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Colin Piggot [mailto:quazar@clara.net]
>Sent: 10 February 2003 15:04
>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: Re: Waterworks
>
>Graham Goring said:
>
>> I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted
>to
>> know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the
>> PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that the
>> stuff in waterworks.
>
>Graham.. .could pass on my email address and web url to him - and ask him
>to get
>in touch if would like to answer some questions about his Sam work for an
>short
>interview / article for the magazine.
>
>Colin
>====
>Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam
>Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
>Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.177064D0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:15:37 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA21091 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:15:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW01F4QB; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:15:33 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AFEvpY021488 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:15:33 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:15:23 +0100 Received: from dsl-212-135-220-66.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:212.135.220.66]:35589 "EHLO powell.zedtwo.local" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:15:17 +0100 Received: by powell.zedtwo.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1VKKW988>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2F2@powell.zedtwo.local> From: Graham Goring To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:15:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.367140C0" X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 23043 Status: RO This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.367140C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, lemme try and see if I've got it right, first. It seems to = partially work in my head but I'm not 100% there yet. =20 Blimey, writing a tile-map to vector mesh and physics system was easier = than this... =20 Graham =20 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]=20 Sent: 10 February 2003 15:01 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 There is always an article there - even if its only half a page, be = good to see some people writing stuff like that :-) =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] = On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 10 February 2003 14:59 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 It wasn't really that complex, but I'm damned if I could figure out how = to program it myself. Bah! =20 I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only = wanted to know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that = the stuff in waterworks. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]=20 Sent: 10 February 2003 14:57 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 Why not write an article in Sam Revival about it :-). Btw, am I = missing something about this water, I don't see it being complex, but ive only played the demo =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] = On Behalf Of Graham Goring Sent: 10 February 2003 14:52 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Waterworks =20 He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. ;)=20 It's actually dead simple and relies upon the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if anyone wants to = see the principle in action. Once I fully understand it... Graham=20 >-----Original Message-----=20 >From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws ] = >Sent: 10 February 2003 14:49=20 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >Subject: RE: Waterworks=20 >=20 >Don't keep us waiting, spill beans! spill beans!=20 >=20 >=20 >Graham Goring said:=20 >> He did indeed tell me, so nerr! ;)=20 >>=20 >> Graham=20 >>=20 >>>-----Original Message-----=20 >>>From: egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl = ]=20 >>>Sent: 10 February 2003 14:27=20 >>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no=20 >>>Subject: Re: Waterworks=20 >>>=20 >>>> Well, it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and=20 >>>> he is the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last=20 >>>> I shall know how he did=20 >>>> the water in Waterworks! Hurrah!=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Graham=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>That is, assuming he'll tell you !=20 >>>=20 >>>:-)=20 >=20 >=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 >http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - = Staying in=20 >http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - = Going out=20 >-------------------------------------------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.367140C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Waterworks

Well, lemme try and see if I've = got it right, first. It seems to partially work in my head but I'm not 100% there yet.

 

=

Blimey, writing a tile-map to = vector mesh and physics system was easier than this...

 

=

Graham

=

 

=

-----Original = Message-----
From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]
Sent: = 10= February 2003 15= :01
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

There is always an article there - even if its only half a page, be good to see some people writing stuff = like that J

 

=

--= ---Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: = 10= February 2003 14= :59
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

It wasn't really that complex, but I'm damned if I could figure out how to = program it myself. Bah!

 

I don't think there's an entire article in it, though. And I only wanted to = know really as I wanted to do a game along the lines of Diggers on the = PC/Archimedes and include water in it that acted in a simlar way that the stuff in = waterworks.

 

--= ---Original Message-----
From: Adrian Brown [mailto:adrian@enliten.force9.co.uk]
Sent: = 10= February 2003 = 14= :57
To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

Why not write an article in Sam Revival about it J.=A0 Btw, am I = missing something about this water, I don't see it being complex, but ive only = played the demo

 

--= ---Original Message-----
From: = owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Graham Goring
Sent: = 10= February 2003 14= :52
To: = 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: = Waterworks

 

He used actual water inside the SAM Coup=E9. = ;)

It's actually dead simple and relies upon = the water being really compressible. I'll write a demo in good ol' Blitz if = anyone wants to see the principle in action. Once I fully understand = it...

Graham

>-----Original Message----- =
>From: Tobermory [mailto:tobermory@grim.ws]
>Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:49
>To: = sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>Subject: RE: = Waterworks
>
>Don't keep us = waiting, spill beans! spill beans!
>
>
>Graham Goring = said:
>> He did indeed = tell me, so nerr! ;)
>> =
>> = Graham
>> =
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: = egmond@xs4all.nl [mailto:egmond@xs4all.nl]
>>>Sent: = 10 February 2003 14:27
>>>To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>>Subject: = Re: Waterworks
>>>
>>>> Well, = it turns out that I managed to track down Martin Bell and
>>>> he is = the chap who worked at EA/Bullfrog/BigBlueBox so at last
>>>> I = shall know how he did
>>>> the = water in Waterworks! Hurrah!
>>>>
>>>> = Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is, = assuming he'll tell you !
>>>
>>>:-)
>
>
>-----------------------------------------= --
>http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in
>http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going  out
>-----------------------------------------= --

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D117.367140C0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:19:01 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA21109 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:19:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DY54P1NA; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:19:01 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AFJ0A1023302 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:19:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:18:43 +0100 Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.193]:5808 "HELO pengo.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:18:25 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-248-213.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.248.213]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BE88B4C0033D for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:18:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000e01c2d117$e99f9d40$d5f85651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <79149FD54E84D411B16800D0B78EE21362E2F1@powell.zedtwo.local> Subject: Re: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:20:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 492 Status: RO > >Graham.. .could pass on my email address and web url to him - and ask him > >to get in touch if would like to answer some questions about his Sam work > > for an short interview / article for the magazine. > > Sure, no problem. Thanks :) Now to get back to work (i've taken this week off work to concentrate on Sam stuff!) Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 16:56:40 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA22102 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:56:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MW4LAZ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:56:35 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1AFuZpX013997 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:56:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:56:12 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:194.70.160.242] ([IPv6:::ffff:194.70.160.242]:33547 "EHLO WORDCRAFT2.wordcraft.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:55:54 +0100 Received: from [194.70.160.3] by WORDCRAFT2.pcfax.com (NTMail 6.04.0010/NT9682.00.22282d95) with ESMTP id cjmvaaaa for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:03:20 +0000 From: "Simon Owen" To: Subject: RE: Waterworks Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:55:43 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2d11c$deb9c040$03a046c2@SIMON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000e01c2d117$e99f9d40$d5f85651@trout> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 243 Status: RO Colin Piggot wrote: > Now to get back to work (i've taken this week off work to > concentrate on Sam stuff!) Lucky sod - If I ever tried to do the same, my wife would have a DIY timetable drawn up for me before I could even load Comet! Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 11 09:23:09 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id JAA22986 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:23:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWYNBN; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:23:04 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1B8N4pX003445 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:23:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:22:49 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:195.82.107.103] ([IPv6:::ffff:195.82.107.103]:19641 "HELO grim.ws" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:22:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 3351 invoked by uid 33); 11 Feb 2003 08:22:25 -0000 Received: from 217.33.203.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user Tobermory) by secure.grim.ws with HTTP; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:22:25 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <15960.217.33.203.18.1044951745.squirrel@secure.grim.ws> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:22:25 -0000 (GMT) Subject: OT - RE: Waterworks From: "Tobermory" To: In-Reply-To: <000b01c2d11c$deb9c040$03a046c2@SIMON> References: <000e01c2d117$e99f9d40$d5f85651@trout> <000b01c2d11c$deb9c040$03a046c2@SIMON> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 512 Status: RO Simon Owen said: > Lucky sod - If I ever tried to do the same, my wife would have a > DIY timetable drawn up for me before I could even load Comet! You need a bit on the side! Everyone would think you were sneaking off to her house for slap/tickle/yorkshire pud, but really you'd just have a SAM in a can set up in the attic.-Tob ------------------------------------------- http://www.cookingcircle.co.uk - Staying in http://www.evilheartedme.co.uk - Going out ------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 9 19:40:14 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id TAA15087 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0D9ZMX; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:09 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h19Ie9A1000905 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:43:48 +0100 Received: from borg.kabelfoon.nl ([IPv6:::ffff:62.45.45.14]:33805 "EHLO borg.kabelfoon.nl" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:43:30 +0100 Received: from Robertsmachine (kf-mss-cb01-0126.dial.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.156.127]) by borg.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 432F514DD86 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:43:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> From: "Robert van der Veeke" To: Subject: PS2 Keyboard Interface Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:43:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 999 Status: RO Finally installed, it works perfectly. Now you can use a keyboard on your lap, sit back and relax while playing with a real Sam. I must say 54 pounds is a lot of money but i now can say that it is money well spend. To Collin Piggot, i don't have the photo's yet of the thing fitted and we did not install exactly as you described in the manual. The nine-pens connector has been soldered directly to the underside of the PCB instead as described on the top, leaving room for the keyboard membrame if you still want to use that. The PS2-connector is still outside the Sam, but since i don't use the seccond drive i am going to fit that on the frontside where normally drive 2 would be located. Robert van der Veeke Currently listening to: Haibane Renmei - OST "Clear the area! An idiot's gonna take a chance!" -Seiya Uribatake --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27-1-2003 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 9 19:40:14 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id TAA15088 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWN4PX; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:10 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h19Ie9A2000905 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:43:55 +0100 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.73]:13515 "EHLO colossus.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:43:45 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-199-196.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.199.196]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 97E1F16000609 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:43:43 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000b01c2d030$c07b2a20$c4c75651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:45:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 1437 Status: RO Robert van der Veeke wrote: > Finally installed, it works perfectly. Now you can use a keyboard on your > lap, sit back and relax while playing with a real Sam. I must say 54 pounds > is a lot of money but i now can say that it is money well spend. I'm really glad you like it! I've added a wireless PS2 keyboard to my 'Sam In A Can' - Now I can use that Sam without tripping over any cables! The update about that and other additions to it will be in issue 4 of Sam Revival which should be out in about 9 days time. I've even taken a weeks holiday from work to spend the time entirely for Sam stuff - including the DTP for issue 4 amongst other things! > To Collin Piggot, i don't have the photo's yet of the thing fitted and we > did not install exactly as you described in the manual. The nine-pens > connector has been soldered directly to the underside of the PCB instead as > described on the top, leaving room for the keyboard membrame if you still > want to use that. Hmmm... I never thought of that - I just left the cables long enough so they could bend around the membrane connector, but I can see how soldering the 9-way connector on the bottom of the motherboard could make it neater and less cluttered, especially when there is not a disk drive in bay 2. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 9 19:40:12 2003 Received: from esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.72]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id TAA15065 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt613.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id D7MWN4P7; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:10 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h19Ie9A4000905 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:05:25 +0100 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.25.134.17]:48299 "EHLO mailout02.sul.t-online.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:05:16 +0100 Received: from fwd08.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hutH-0001gp-08; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:05:15 +0100 Received: from t-online.de (320029367685-0001@[80.133.19.82]) by fwd08.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18hutC-2A4iTAC; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:05:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3E468A39.714134C5@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:04:57 +0100 From: womoteam@t-online.de (Wolfgang Haller) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de]C-CCK-MCD 1&1 PureTec Edition 02/2000 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface References: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Sender: 320029367685-0001@t-dialin.net X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h19Ie9A4000905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by edh3.edh.ericsson.se id TAA15065 Content-Length: 1430 Status: RO Hi Robert. Sorry - the photos I did yesterday at Bunnik will soon be sent to you. However, we was today at a birthday, so I had not the time as we were just a few minutes at home. Also I will send you the other pics as promised. I will zip them and send you in several parts. Sniff - my keyboard IF hasnīt still reached me. S@§#! post. Solong Wolfgang Robert van der Veeke schrieb: > Finally installed, it works perfectly. Now you can use a keyboard on your > lap, sit back and relax while playing with a real Sam. I must say 54 pounds > is a lot of money but i now can say that it is money well spend. > > To Collin Piggot, i don't have the photo's yet of the thing fitted and we > did not install exactly as you described in the manual. The nine-pens > connector has been soldered directly to the underside of the PCB instead as > described on the top, leaving room for the keyboard membrame if you still > want to use that. > > The PS2-connector is still outside the Sam, but since i don't use the > seccond drive i am going to fit that on the frontside where normally drive 2 > would be located. > > Robert van der Veeke > Currently listening to: Haibane Renmei - OST > > "Clear the area! An idiot's gonna take a chance!" > -Seiya Uribatake > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27-1-2003 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 9 19:40:12 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id TAA15069 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0D9ZNB; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:10 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h19Ie9A5000905 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:40:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:10:08 +0100 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.9]:17616 "EHLO shockwave.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:10:01 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-199-196.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.199.196]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 61A9316001A85 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:09:59 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000701c2d05e$53c4b9e0$c4c75651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> <3E468A39.714134C5@t-online.de> Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:11:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h19Ie9A5000905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by edh3.edh.ericsson.se id TAA15069 Content-Length: 377 Status: RO Wolfgang wrote: > Sniff - my keyboard IF hasnīt still reached me. S@§#! post. That's a bit of a pain - 2 weeks ago that was posted to you, at least it was insured! I'll e-mail you directly just now off the list. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 12 09:27:02 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id JAA04907 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:27:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id 1X35XW5P; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:26:57 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1C8QvpX009075 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:26:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:26:26 +0100 Received: from einsteinium.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.147]:50064 "EHLO einsteinium.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:26:15 +0100 Received: from dial81-135-8-112.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.8.112] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18hvVq-0004u2-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:45:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c2d063$07aea160$70088751@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: References: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> <000b01c2d030$c07b2a20$c4c75651@trout> Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:40:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 794 Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Piggot" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface > I've added a wireless PS2 keyboard to my 'Sam In A Can' - Now I can use that Sam > without tripping over any cables! The update about that and other additions to > it will be in issue 4 of Sam Revival which should be out in about 9 days time. > I've even taken a weeks holiday from work to spend the time entirely for Sam > stuff - including the DTP for issue 4 amongst other things! Was that the Cherry Cyboard? Glad its working fine for you :) > ==== > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ > Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 10 00:08:14 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id AAA21864 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:08:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id DW0D0480; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:08:10 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h19N8ApX007283 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:08:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:07:42 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.25.134.80]:5834 "EHLO mailout01.sul.t-online.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:07:21 +0100 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18i0Xg-00035a-06; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:07:20 +0100 Received: from t-online.de (320029367685-0001@[217.81.24.120]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18i0Xf-1yyz9UC; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:07:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3E46DEC9.AB929E86@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:05:46 +0100 From: womoteam@t-online.de (Wolfgang Haller) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de]C-CCK-MCD 1&1 PureTec Edition 02/2000 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface References: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> <3E468A39.714134C5@t-online.de> <000701c2d05e$53c4b9e0$c4c75651@trout> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Sender: 320029367685-0001@t-dialin.net X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se id h19N8ApX007283 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by edh3.edh.ericsson.se id AAA21864 Content-Length: 784 Status: RO Hi Colin. Thats not your fault or problem. This for all in the list!!!!!!!! Sorry, I have answered to Robert via samusersgroup, and this was definitive my fault!!!!! (I made pics from the soldering and promised him to send them, so this should be my excuse for not doing it fast :-) I will state the post problem to you tomorow in detail. Sorry Wolfgang Colin Piggot schrieb: > Wolfgang wrote: > > Sniff - my keyboard IF hasnīt still reached me. S@§#! post. > > That's a bit of a pain - 2 weeks ago that was posted to you, at least it was > insured! > > I'll e-mail you directly just now off the list. > > Colin > ==== > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ > Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 12 12:09:24 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA09275 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id 1X35ZH9L; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:19 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1CB9JpX019745 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:06 +0100 Received: from pengo.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.193]:31117 "HELO pengo.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with SMTP id ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:08:53 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-250-45.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.250.45]) by pengo.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D5BF4C0017F for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:08:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000701c2d287$63dde6a0$2dfa5651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <004001c2d028$12d651e0$eb2612ac@Robertsmachine> <000b01c2d030$c07b2a20$c4c75651@trout> <002d01c2d063$07aea160$70088751@davidkw44rkbwb> Subject: Re: PS2 Keyboard Interface Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:10:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 499 Status: RO David wrote: > Was that the Cherry Cyboard? Glad its working fine for you :) Yeap, it was that cherry cyboard thing. I managed to fit the wee receiver PCB under the disk drive inside the can, and even with the lid fitted the signal is strong enough to give a decent working range. Just taken a few photos of it for the next article. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 16 21:28:12 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id VAA12347 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:28:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.25]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id 18WXK4SG; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:28:07 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by condor.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1GKS7A1016784 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:28:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:27:32 +0100 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:195.92.195.175]:33548 "EHLO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:27:18 +0100 Received: from modem-1183.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.132.159] helo=BOB) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18kVNc-00066V-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:27:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2d5f9$fe7eefe0$0100a8c0@BOB> From: "Tim P" To: "Sam Users" Subject: passworts Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:28:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 268 Status: RO Has anyone else been getting this a load of "passworts" spam recently? The headers say it's coming direct to me, rather than via the list, but I'm pretty careful about giving out my email address, and can't think where else it might have come from. Cheers, Tim From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 16 21:35:34 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id VAA12582 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:35:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id 18WQZAD4; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:35:30 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1GKZUpX029854 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:35:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:35:14 +0100 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([IPv6:::ffff:62.241.160.73]:50891 "EHLO colossus.systems.pipex.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:35:07 +0100 Received: from trout (81-86-199-196.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.199.196]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A3B2F16000692 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:35:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000d01c2d5fb$2bec28c0$c4c75651@trout> From: "Colin Piggot" To: References: <000501c2d5f9$fe7eefe0$0100a8c0@BOB> Subject: Re: passworts Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:37:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 905 Status: RO > Has anyone else been getting this a load of "passworts" spam recently? Nope .... > The headers say it's coming direct to me, rather than via the list, but I'm > pretty careful about giving out my email address, and can't think where else > it might have come from. Well, it's not coming through the list... otherwise we'd all have received it. It's quite amazing how easily email spam gets to people - I briefly had a BT Anytime account for fixed rate dialup before moving to ADSL, and I *NEVER* used that email address - yet it got spam, spam and more spam. I have resorted to using Mailwasher (www.mailwasher.net) which can block and bounce back all the spam - to deal with about 25+ spams a day I receive on my main email address. Colin ==== Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now ! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 17 00:28:37 2003 Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.71]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id AAA16804 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:28:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id 18WXLDV7; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:28:36 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1GNSapX001620 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:28:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:28:01 +0100 Received: from einsteinium.btinternet.com ([IPv6:::ffff:194.73.73.147]:54265 "EHLO einsteinium.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:27:49 +0100 Received: from dial81-131-160-148.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.160.148] helo=davidkw44rkbwb) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18kYCI-0007dJ-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:27:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2d613$0b5e5750$94a08351@davidkw44rkbwb> From: "David" To: References: <000501c2d5f9$fe7eefe0$0100a8c0@BOB> Subject: Re: passworts Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:27:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 328 Status: RO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim P" To: "Sam Users" Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: passworts > Has anyone else been getting this a load of "passworts" spam recently? I use mailwasher myself - and just dump loads of spam before i even see it :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 17 21:21:27 2003 Received: from esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se (esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.254.69]) by edh3.edh.ericsson.se (8.9.1/8.9.1/eri-dom-1.0) with ESMTP id VAA29146 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:21:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([153.88.253.21]) by esealnt610.al.sw.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id FD4FJ75C; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:21:22 +0100 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by alaska.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/WIREfire-1.4) with ESMTP id h1HKLMpX019115 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:21:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (root@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no id ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:20:50 +0100 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk ([IPv6:::ffff:195.92.195.175]:22281 "EHLO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:20:39 +0100 Received: from modem-3986.lynx.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.207.146] helo=BOB) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18krkh-0003sG-00 for sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:20:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2d6c2$3c1083f0$0100a8c0@BOB> From: "Tim P" To: References: <000501c2d5f9$fe7eefe0$0100a8c0@BOB> <000d01c2d5fb$2bec28c0$c4c75651@trout> Subject: Re: passworts Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:22:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Envelope-To: <"|/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l sam-users -f owner-sam-users -h nvg.ntnu.no sam-users-outgoing"> (uid 0) Sender: owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Length: 935 Status: RO > Well, it's not coming through the list... otherwise we'd all have received it. I was thinking more of emails pulled from list archives / lists of members on the web. But looks like I'll have to scratch my head a bit longer.... > It's quite amazing how easily email spam gets to people - I briefly had a BT > Anytime account for fixed rate dialup before moving to ADSL, and I *NEVER* used > that email address - yet it got spam, spam and more spam. > I have resorted to using Mailwasher (www.mailwasher.net) which can block and > bounce back all the spam - to deal with about 25+ spams a day I receive on my > main email address. I've generally done quite well. I've had this freeserve something like 4 years, and this is the first time I'm aware I've had any direct to me (ignoring the stuff freeserve sends me!) I've had unc@mono.org for more like 7, and get something like 1 a month on average. Oh well. Cheers, Tim