From nvg.unit.no!oerjan Sun Dec 12 20:31:28 1993 remote from swix Return-Path: Received: from tigern.nvg.unit.no by swix.nvg.unit.no with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0p8wVl-0005UjC; Sun, 12 Dec 93 20:31 MET Received: by tigern.nvg.unit.no (smallmail 0.7); Sun, 12 Dec 1993 20:31:20 MET Message-Id: <828.3804.755724680@tigern.nvg.unit.no> From: oerjan@nvg.unit.no (Oerjan Johansen) Subject: FR Committee: Round 14 Ended To: nomic@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nomic List), chapman@adtaz.sps.mot.com, alyxx@nadc.navy.mil, dnicol@vax1.umkc.edu, ecrocke@phoenix.Princeton.EDU, kunne@cernvm.cern.ch, mkkuhner@genetics.washington.edu, oerjan@nvg.unit.no, panditvx@ntmtv.com, rchatham@math.utk.edu, rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu, spcabg1@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu, stein.kulseth@nta.no, thedward@wixer.bga.com, thomson@netcom.com, wesc@ichips.intel.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 20:31:19 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 16046 Status: OR ==== Fantasy Rules Committee Round 14 has ended. The new Judge, Wizard, and murderer of the judge is Wes. I will still distribute messages to all members until Wes declares that he takes over business. (Except if you take too long I'll be going home for Christmas :-) A real listserv list will probably be created in the near future. ==== The final Fantasy Rule Set of Round 14: ==== FANTASY RULE 14:1 (Alyxx, Tue Nov 23 16:57:56 1993) (VALID) > The Judge has been killed. Style points: 0. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:2 (rchatham, Tue Nov 23 17:06:25 1993) (VALID) > The Judge was killed by one of the members of the Fantasy Rule > Committee. To further aid the cause of justice, each rule must > provide a clue as to the identity of the foul fiend who murdered > the Judge. Style points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:3 (Ronald Kunne, Tue Nov 23 17:23:18 1993) (VALID) > Every Fantasy Rule shall contain a piece of the puzzle to answer > the question: Who killed the Judge? > Therefore... > all Fantasy Rule Comite members and the body of the dead Judge > are on an island. One of them did it! Style points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:4 (Storm, Tue Nov 23 17:50:54 1993) (VALID) > Clues fall into three general categories: Method, Motive and > Opportunity. In order to identify the killer, we will need to > be certain of all three. > > The last person who admits to seeing the Judge alive was Oerjan. Style Points: 2. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:5 (Alyxx, Tue Nov 23 18:59:05 1993) (VALID) > A clue: > The murderer was a male human, who speaks English (though not > necessarily as his first language) Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:6 (Wes, Tue Nov 23 20:44:34 1993) (VALID) > No clue in a Fantasy Rule may contradict a factual clue from another > Fantasy Rule. For example, it is known that the Judge had no cuts or > bruises, so the killer did not use a knife or gun for the murder. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:7 (Alyxx, Wed Nov 24 18:39:14 1993) (VALID) > While we are discussing motives (we WERE discussing motives, weren't > we?)... > it is a well known fact that at least one member was angry at the > judge for beating him in an earlier round. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:8 (Ronald Kunne, Wed Nov 24 22:27:46 1993) (VALID) > The Judge drowned, but his assasin was allergic for water. > On top of that, he submitted an INVALID Rule in Fantasy Round 14. Style Points: 2 ==== FANTASY RULE 14:9 (David Nicol, Mon Nov 29 06:17:38 1993) (VALID) > I was on the south lawn the entire afternoon the judge went > missing, playing bocci with Alyxx -- but it was revealed to me > in a dream that the killer's spelling is not 100% accurate, > especially in his valid round fourteen fantasy rules. Style Points: 1 ==== FANTASY RULE 14:10 (Alyxx, Mon Nov 29 18:53:45 1993) (VALID) > Though the motive was clear (although not yet revealed), > it is likely, nay, almost definite that the killer had > little time to plan his dastardly deed before the execution > of the crime, and of the judge. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:11 (rchatham, Mon Nov 29 19:40:28 1993) (VALID) > The killer is among those who, at the time of this posting, were > eligible to play. For your information, this is: Alyxx, David Nicol, rchatham, Ronald Kunne, Storm and Wes. Style Points: 2. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:12 (Wes, Mon Nov 29 20:32:08 1993) (VALID) > The killer did not have an argument with the Judge before > he died, but he did apparently want to. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:13 (Ronald Kunne, Tue Nov 30 14:24:03 1993) (INVALID) > As I haven't got a clue to the murderer's identity, this Rule > is no doubt INVALID. Style Points: 2. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:14 (Ronald Kunne, Tue Nov 30 14:24:03 1993) (VALID) > Ironically, the murderer of the Judge submitted the last VALIT > Rule of Fantasy Round 14. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:15 (Alyxx, Wed Dec 1 13:05:18 1993) (VALID) > Interestingly, it is clear that the murderer is supplying > (or has supplied) FALSE or MISLEADING clues, to shift > suspicion onto other parties. Style Points: 2. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:16 (Alyxx, Thu Dec 2 15:58:19 1993) (VALID) > Despite being on an Island surrounded by OCEAN water, it is clear > (on close examination of the Judge's mucous membranes) that his > drowned in FRESH water. Since the only fresh water we have found > on the island is that which we were able to bring with us, close > examination of everyone's water supply would probably reveal > the killer Style Points: 2. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:17 (Ronald Kunne, Thu Dec 2 19:31:31 1993) (VALID) > From now on, all Fantasy Rules should either provide an alibi > for a comite member still under suspicion, or bring in evidence > sufficient to put the assassin behind bars. > Although I was in the bar with Storm at the time of the murder, > I am still rather thirsty. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:18 (rchatham, Fri Dec 3 16:06:01 1993) (VALID) > At the time of the murder, I was in the forest looking for one > of my fleet of robots. A few minutes after the murder, I found > the robot near the murder scene. The robot was rather wet and > was muttering something about violating a Law of Robotics. > The rest of my 'bots ar fine. They can perform many useful tasks, > including tending bar and acting as a mobile intercom system. > I've even heard that some people have used my robots for > "telearguments." > It's obvious that my robot was used to commit the Judge's murder. Style Points: 2. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:19 (David Nicol, Fri Dec 3 18:14:30 1993) (VALID) > Everyone knows, since we've been around him on the island and it > is just, like, a matter of course for him (he was born that way) > but I think now might be a good time to point out, for the record > and all, that Ronald Kunne is completely blind. Style Points: 3. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:20 (Wes, Fri Dec 3 20:26:06 1993) (VALID) > The bar no longer serves fresh water because all the fresh water > was stolen from the bar the day before the murder. Robot tracks > were found at the scene of the theft. At the time, I was walking on > the beach at the far side of the island. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:21 (Ronald Kunne, Mon Dec 6 01:48:10 1993) (VALID) > Using all his skill Rchatham succeeded in getting some facts from > his malfunctioning robot. > The robot had been tending bar. Somebody, whose identity could not > be determined, but apparently not Alyx nor Stormm, had ordered the > robot to dig the large hole in the garden just outside the bar > and to fill it with all the fresh water it could find in the bar. > (It was this hole, close to which the Judge had been found.) > This same person also ordered the robot to hand over his reserve > energy pack. All this happened on the day before the murder took > place. > Furthermore the robot is quite sure that Storm and me didn't leave > the bar in the afternoon of the day of the murder. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:22 (Wes, Mon Dec 6 21:04:31 1993) (VALID) > There were signs of electric shock on the body of the dead Judge. > This, combined with the fact that there were no fingerprints on the > body, might indicate that the killer wore gloves, probably made of > rubber. It is known that neither Storm nor Ronald own any gloves. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:23 (Alyxx, Tue Dec 7 19:46:19 1993) (INVALID) > It is known that Ronald Kunne, despite his oracular impairment, > has ample skill in the field of robotics to reprogram a robot. > While a direct violation of the first Law of Robotics would be > impossible, it is, theoretically, possible to program a robot to > believe that, after being thrust into a pit of water several times, > the only thing that could revive a human is a blast of electricity. > Unfortunately, this is not what happened. Since the missing energy > pack was discovered in the bar, with leads running outside, the bulk > of the deed could have been done FROM the bar, even by a blind man if > he had at least one human accomplice. It is clear that Storm, with > whom Ronald was playing chess in the bar, could not have HELPED but > know what was happening, if, in fact, she was an accomplice. > This is why it was clear that she would not contradict that fact..... > 1) it was true, and 2) she is an accomplice. > Am I missing any facts? Style points: -1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:24 (Wes, Wed Dec 8 21:36:56 1993) (VALID) > Upon close examination of the Judge's body, the remains of a rare > treetop moth was discovered in his clothing. It is known that this > moth is only found at the top of the trees on the other side of > the island from where the body was found, to the north into > unexplored territory. When Oerjan last saw the Judge, the Judge > was headed for that side of the island, and was carrying a large > pack and a light. The pack was found with the body of the Judge, but > the light was not. It is known that Ronald cannot go to the north > side of the island alone because of his blindness, and nobody > else admits to guiding him (and a robot would be unable to do so). Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:25 (Wes, Wed Dec 8 22:53:56 1993) (VALID) > When the north side of the island was explored, a rope was found > hanging from a tree. On the upper branches of this tree, where the > bark is particularly smooth, the Judge's fingerprints were discovered, > as well as signs of another person. No specific identification could > be made, but it was definitely a person, and it was definitely not > David Nicol. Below this tree was a large pool of water, although > a large number of dissolved electrolytes in the water > prevents it from being fresh enough to drink. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:26 (Wes, Wed Dec 8 22:53:56 1993) (VALID) > When the pool below the tree (the one with the rope in it) was > examined closely, it was discovered that the electrolytes > in the water were caused recently when a large electrical charge > released them from the surrounding stone. As little as a week ago, > the pool was filled with fresh water, although it had been > completely undiscovered until it was too late. Of course, if > rchatnam, the water finding expert, had been in the area, he sure > would have spotted the pool, and discovered the fresh water, so > rchatnam couldn't have been here while the pool was still fresh. Style Points: 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:27 (Ronald Kunne, Thu Dec 9 10:21:51 1993) (INVALID) >Three days after the murder of the Judge one of the Comite Members >disappeared. The same person had registered a message on the >walk-man of one of the other Members: >"I admit to having murdered the Judge. I used a robot to dig a hole, > fill it with fresh water and lead an electrical cable from the > water to the reserve energy pack that I kept in the bar. > I ordered the robot to place a Magnum champagne bottle in the water. > No First Rule violation sofar. And most important, no need for me > to touch the water! > In the afternoon of the day of the murder, I went with Storm to the > bar and had asked the Judge to come also. > I ordered the robot to warn me at the exact moment the Judge > would try to lift the bottle out of the water. > Champagne addict as the Judge is, all went as planned: I threw > the switch, the electrical shock caused the Judge to fall in the water > and drowned." Style Points: -1. ==== FANTASY RULE 14:28 (Wes, Thu Dec 9 19:21:02 1993) (VALID) > The power pack which had been taken from the robot was found at the > bottom of the pool of water on the north side of the island, still > inside of the light that the Judge was seen to have been carrying. > The power pack apparently shorted out when it fell in the pool, > which would have provided a strong enough electrical charge to > release the electrolytes from the surrounding rocks, and to kill > anyone within 50 feet of the pool (a very strong power pack). > Therefore none of the Committee members could have been within 50 > feet of the pool when the power pack was submerged in the water. Style Points: 2. ==== Wes's final confession (Fri Dec 10 23:16:24 1993): > Well, you got me. I might as well come clean, but I want you to know > right now that I didn't mean to kill him. I just wanted to yell and > scream a bit. > > Okay. Well, it's like this. You see, in the last round, the Judge got > the game so weirded out right at the beginning, that I didn't even > submit a rule, and so the Judge obviously beat me. It was pretty bad. > Well, that was fine and dandy, and I wasn't going to do much about it > until this island thing. We were all on the island, and I was jogging > off on the other side of the beach just before dark, when I saw > the Judge up in a tree with some kind of powerful light. > > Well, being a bit curious, I went a bit closer to see what he was > doing. Apparently, he was using the light to attract some rare sort > of moth so that he could watch them. He was some fan of rare moths. > This particular one was a native of the island, but was only found in > this one section, just above the treetops, so the Judge was way out > here, all by himself. > > Well, at that point, the whole situation about the last round went > shooting through my head, and I decided that I would commit a crime. > I climbed the rope up to where he was, real quiet like, and kicked > him out of the tree. He fell (surprised?). I was all ready to hear > this nice *thump* and hear him scream in pain, which would have been > a fitting punishment, but instead I heard this splash. Then there was > this really loud zapping sound, like electricity. > > I looked down to see that he had fallen in this pool of water, and > that the light he had been carrying had shorted out, sending a > massive amount of energy into the surrounding area. My hair was > standing on end, and I was 150 feet up in a tree! Needless to say, > the Judge was dead. Strangely enough, the rocks gave up this strange > kind of electrolyte that conducted electricity away from the Judge, > who was in the pool, so the Judge didn't get shocked all that bad. > Just enough to paralyze him temporarily. Unfortunately, while > paralyzed, the Judge drowned. > > Obviously, I took off. I suppose I might have tried to move the body > and hide it, except for that dang allergy to water. Of course, to > keep from being "falsely" accused, I refused to admit that I had even > seen the Judge that night, even when he was found to be missing. What > I didn't know was that he had ordered rchatnam's robot to follow him, > and the robot had picked up the body and taken it to the garden, > where it had dug that ridiculous hole and filled it with water. I > still don't know why the Judge had him do that. Anyways, the robot > seemed to think that the Judge had fallen because the robot had just > started up the rope when the Judge fell, so the robot thought that it > had killed the Judge. Strange, isn't it? > > Of course, I didn't know all of what the Judge was doing until we > pieced it together from the clues provided. When the figure Oerjan > saw following the Judge that night was identified as the robot, I > knew how the body had gotten back behind the bar so fast. It was the > reprogramming of the robot that really threw me. Apparently, the > Judge wanted that hole for something, and needed a power pack to run > the light he was using, so he had the robot dig the hole and took > it's power pack. And probably without even asking rchatnam. > > Anyways, as you can see, I did kill the Judge, but I didn't mean to. > All I wanted to do was do a bit of yelling at him for beating me > earlier, and make him feel bad, all while he was in pain so he > couldn't really yell back too well. > Sorry about all the trouble I caused..... ==== Alyxx got 6 Style Points. David Nicol got 4 Style Points. rchatham got 5 Style Points. Ronald Kunne got 7 Style Points. Storm got 2 Style Points. Wes got 9 Style Points. ==== Greetings, Oerjan.