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Subject: Round 22 ended...
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Status: OR

So round 22 ended with 22:29 being voted INALID by 6 votes to 1,
leaving Dug as the sole eligible player and winner of the round.

Round 22 status:
29 rules submitted
  12 VALID
  17 INVALID

Score:
Peter        6 and The Wizard for round 23
Luke         5
Dug          2 and winner of the round, and Judge for round 23
Ronald       0
Keith        0
Joshua      -1
Alyxx       -3

Sum Score is 9 for a mean score of 0.310

The submitted rules in round 22, with judgements:

>>>> Rule 22:1 (Ronald - 94/08/11 15:48:23 GMT) * VALID * 0 points
Every Rule shall mention a member of the Hurgleburgle family.
All members of this family hate mathematics.
Especially Samson Hurgleburgle forbids the use of numbers in Rules.

>>>> Rule 22:2 (Keith - 94/08/11 16:16:06 GMT) * VALID * 0 points
The members of the Hurgleburgle family could be counted, if a
Hurgleburgle
was inclined to count, with exactly as many fingers as occur on a normal
human hand.  Papa Ernesto Hurgleburgle loves his family, but any more
Hurgleburgles would be enough to drive him mad.

>>>> Rule 22:3 (Peter - 94/08/11 17:55:17 GMT) * VALID * 0 points
Mrs. Calliope Hurgleburgle is a strident feminist.  Being the only woman
in
her family, hers has been the lone voice defending the rights of women
in a
family living in a patriarchal world.  Calliope particularly objects to
the
male-oriented aspects of the English language, and believes it should be
gender-equal.  To that end, she henceforth forbids the use of
gender-specific
pronouns and any words containing within them "man", "woman", "boy",
"girl",
or their plurals.

>>>> Rule 22:4 (Alyxx - 94/08/11 17:57:51) * INVALID * 1 point
Most of the Hurgleburgles really hate eachother.  Some trace this hatred
back to
a love-feud in the time of Shakespeare...others disagree.  Lady
Lucindia, the
matriarch of this large, "noble"-blooded clan, NEEDS to hear more family
gossip and backbiting...so each rule must describe a facet or a cause of
any of
the bitter family fights...like how the love-feud was finally solved by
the
jilted party pouring acid over the naughty-bits of the former swain.....

>>>> Rule 22:5 (Joshua - 94/08/11 20:03:01) * INVALID * 0 points
One of the Hurgleburgle sons, Harold, was honored by being the son with
the shortest name, Harold Hurgleburgle. Being the eldest son, Harold
was able convince Harold's partents that every child after Harold
should have a name which is longer (in characters) then Harolds, and
starts with the letter 'H' (a good family tradition). Therefore, all
future children of the Hurgleburgle family shall have names of more
characters then Harold Hurgleburgle, and should start with the letter
'H'.

>>>> Rule 22:6 (Ronald - 94/08/12 09:28:15 GMT) * VALID * -2 points

The dog -who was considered by everybody as being part of the family-
always quoted Shakespearean verse, but wrongly (and so shall we!).
As nobody agreed on its gender (although we might derive it),
the poor animal was known as `It'.
The dog always understood this as `Id'.

"To be Id, and not to be It", was Id's motto.

>>>>> Rule 22:7 (Keith - 13:22:59 GMT) * INVALID * 0 point
Chubbworthy Q. Hurgleburgle loves to cook.  Ever since childhood,
"Chubbs"
(as C.Q.H. is nicknamed by other family members) has dreamed of creating
the world's largest, richest, most fattening cake.  Its ornateness will
be
unmatched-- electric trains running around the base, a cuckoo-clock in
the
top, and of course the most decadent ingredients.  Strangely enough,
Chubbs
plans to serve this incredible culinary creation to the next-door
neighbors'
pet chickens-- to fatten them up for the next cooking project!  (It was
with
this strange plan in mind that Shakespeare wrote: "Chubbs is the cause
that is
width in others' hens!")

Chubbs is starting work on this monstrous pastry RIGHT NOW, by cracking
a few
eggs (of course Chubbs doesn't believe in precise measurement-- since
mathematics is so abhorrent) into a bowl.  From now on, all rules must
mention an ingredient in (or other ornate element of) Chubbworthy's
cake.

>>>> Rule 22:8 (Luke - 94/08/12 15:30:28) * INVALID * 0 points
Ernesto Hurgleburgle was quite proud of Calliope's tremendous fertility
and
celebrated the birth of thier next child by giving it the longest name,
ever
to grace the birth certificate of a Hurgleburgle.  Ernesto made this
speech.
"In honour of my most recent child, Harold, I name this child
Hertfordshire.
All subsequent children will have a longer name than the previous
child."

As an aside, Ernesto proclaimed "All Hurgleburgle's have a vowel at the
end of their name!"  And then collapsed into the chair behind him.

>>>> Rule 22:9 (Alyxx - 94/08/12 16:10:14) * INVALID * -1 point
I have always thought ARSENIC to be an interesting cake ingredient, and
I think
the lovely Callipe would agree.  Much like the Borgia family of old, the
Hurgleburgle clan is a bloodthirsty lot.  Each of them, and their spouse
equivalents, has a favorite weapon and many of them love several...The
confusion is comical, when one shouts "Is this a saber I see before
me..."
(Its pommel towards my fat gut" in Chubb's case)....

My point is that, of course, each subsequent rule must describe a
Hurgleburgle
(or e's lover's) weapon of choice...or a less favored weapon with a
reason why.

>>>>> Rule 22:10 (Joshua - 94/08/12 18:57:19) * INVALID * -1 point
"I am George Hurgleburgle, a chiled of the Hurgleburgles. Another child
of my parents, Chubbworthy, always insists on cooking the most
outrageous cakes. I have always provided a key ingredient though, to
help Chubbworthy. I find that various amounts of spices need to be in
exact concentrations - but because Chubbworthy does not like numbers -
I must communicate those concentrations in other ways. (Chubbworthy
doth protest too much me thinks (about numbers).
For example:
I tell Chubbworthy to use (for his cake) as many tablespoons of salt as
there are noses on a normal persons face.
>From now on, all rules must be describe an exact quantity of an
ingredient, to help Chubbworthy get the cake just right."

>>>> Rule 22:11 (Alyxx - 94/08/13 06:28:51) * INVALID * -3 points
I have always thought ARSENIC to be an interesting cake ingredient, and
I think
the lovely Calliope would agree.  Much like the Borgia family of old,
the
Hurgleburgle clan is a bloodthirsty lot.  Each of them, and thier spouse
equivalents, has a favorite weapon and many of them love several...The
confusion is comical, when some person shouts "Is this a saber I see
before me..." ("Its pommel towards my fat gut" in Chubb's case)...

My point is that, of course, each subsequent rule must describe a
Hurgleburgle
(or e's lover's) weapon of choice...or a less favored weapon with a
reason why.

>>>> Rule 22:12 (Peter - 94/08/13 08:11:25) * INVALID * 2 points
All members of the Hurgleburgle family have prodigious appetites.  Food
tends to disappear from the dinner table quickly, and quite a few
squabbles
have disrupted an otherwise cheerful meal when the last morsel vanished
amidst
accusations that some Hurbleburgles got more food than others.  Papa
Ernesto
was dismayed at the frequent disharmony at their table.  And so,
applying
logic to the problem (Ernesto's greatest weapon in the constant struggle
to
keep the Hurgleburgle family running smoothly), Ernesto devised a
solution.
Ernesto declared that no member of the family could have an additional
portion
until every other member had finished their initial portion.  This
worked like
a charm, and all Hurgleburgles kept track of each other's consumption.
At a
recent Indian dinner, for example, Ernesto asked a son how many pieces
of
chicken in peanut sauce that son had eaten.  It turned out the son had
"et tu
satay."

We could learn a great deal from Ernesto's wisdom.  Henceforth, no rule
may
name a Hurgleburgle unless all other Hurgleburgles have been named at
least
as often in previous rules as that Hurgleburgle has been.  Thus shall we
maintain equality and harmony.

>>>> Rule 22:13 (Peter - 94/08/14 18:46:35) * VALID * -1 point
All members of the Hurgleburgle family have prodigious appetites.  Food
tends to disappear from the dinner table quickly, and quite a few
squabbles
have disrupted an otherwise cheerful meal when the last morsel vanished
amidst accusations that some Hurbleburgles got more food than others.
Papa
Ernesto was dismayed at the frequent disharmony at their table.  And so,
Ernesto devised a solution.  Ernesto declared that no member of the
family
could have an additional portion until every other member had finished
their
initial portion.  This worked like a charm, and all Hurgleburgles kept
track
of each other's consumption.  At a recent Indian dinner, for example,
Ernesto
asked a son to inventory the number of pieces of chicken in peanut sauce
that
son had eaten.  It turned out the son had "et tu satay."

We could learn a great deal from Ernesto's wisdom.  Henceforth, no rule
may
name a Hurgleburgle unless all other Hurgleburgles have been named at
least
as often in previous rules as that Hurgleburgle has been.  Thus shall we
maintain equality and harmony.

>>>> Rule 22:14 (Peter - 94/08/14 19:27:11) * INVALID * 1 point

Samson hated math but thought
of poetry sublime.
So entranced did Sam become
Most thoughts soon formed in rhyme.

This trait worried Samson's mom
who cooked meals with the lad,
"I want straight talk," the dame exclaimed,
"not some modern Illiad!"

Samson, grinding spices with
a pestle happily,
Paused just long enough to say,
"What tools these mortars be!"

Rules which include Samson's name
must therefore be in verse.
Before you groan, consider that
soon things will be much worse!

>>>> Rule 22:15 (Peter - 94/08/15 08:21:31) * VALID * 2 points
Hee.  Me Floyd.  Me am last H.  Me am not smart.  Me can just talk in
short
words of just a syl.. syl.. me can't think of right word (me think it
might
be too long).  If you talk of me in rule, you talk like me too so me
know
what you say.  Me think that's fair.

This game too hard for me.  Me want to hear a tale.  I know... you can
tell
me tale 'bout our last trip.  Oooh, that good tale.  Me, mom, dad, dog,
and
my bro went on big trip last March.  Took long rides, saw lots of
things.
Yeah, that good tale to tell.  If you have to play dumb game, tell me
tale
as you play.  You and me, we share the rides of March.

>>>> Rule 22:16 (Luke - 94/08/15 12:25:57) * INVALID * 1 point
The youngest child in the Hurgleburgle family does not have a name,
since they could not come to an agreement on the name.  "Toby, or not
Toby," that was the question (and "not Toby" was the only conclusion).
The rest of the family just calls the youngest child "not Toby".  Not
Toby has always existed in an indecisive house hold, and is a victim
of the dysfunctionality that reigns there.  As an escape from this
unfortunate circumstance, not Toby enjoys reading.  In order to ensure
that there is plenty of reading available (and to reflect the fickle
nature of the family), Not Toby declares,

"Hencforth all valid rule postings must have more words in them than
any previous rule posting.  The word count includes any preamble or
postscript that is included with the rule.  Also the rule must have an
exception to the rule explicitly stated in parentheses, (unless the
previous valid rule stated an exception, in which case the exception
is optional)."

				-Luke

P.S.	To be on the safe side you may wish to include an exception,
        even if you think it might be optional to do so.

>>>> Rule 22:17 (Luke - 94/08/15 18:50:01) * INVALID * -1 points
The home is a very important aspect of family life.  The Hurgleburgle
home is a ramshackle affair that has been modified and added to over a
long period of time.  I remember way back when Calliope was wed to James
(not a Hurgleburgle), a previous husband.  It is quite a tale.

James got quite drunk at the wedding and spent the entire wedding
contribution to buy a tiny little hut near an abandoned farm.
Calliope made the best of the situation and tried to fix-up the tiny
abode.  Calliope painted the new home a lovely wheat colour.  Upon
returning from a day at the race track, James couldn't help but
remark, "House wheat it is (that's Shakespeare you know!)."  That was
the happiest day of their marriage.  They were soon divorced since
James insisted that Calliope remain barefoot in the kitchen (the floor
was quite splintery).  Calliope kept the house of course.

>From now on, all of the tales should talk about some aspect of how the
house was modified during the history of the Hurgleburgles.

>>>> Rule 22:18 (Luke - 94/08/15 20:56:25) * INVALID * 0 points
When the Hurgleburgle family went to the beach, Samson and It played
a rousing game of fetch with a piece of driftwood.  This was a memorable
event for both of them since the piece of wood was very solid and
heave.  It would slowly drag the enormous piece of timber back to
Samson after each throw.  As you could guess Samson was quite strong,
with long flowing hair.  After they had all rested by the chip stand,
Samson yelled "into the beach" my family.

When the sun came out from behind the clouds, Samson noticed bits of
quartz and fools gold in the grain of the wood.  Upon returning home
the board was used to frame the new fire place in the living room.

Since the Hurgleburgle's like to have a positive outlook on life, from
now on all rules should describe a positive charactaristic about a
member of the family, that has henceforth gone unstated.

>>>> Rule 22:19 (Luke - 94/08/17 16:16:34) * VALID * 2 point
	Samson is as Samson does.  Samson hates mathematical fuzz.
Samson hates complexity.  From now on all sentences will be simple
sentences.  No sentence will have multiple clauses.  Samson remembers
the family trip last March.  Samson was involved in some discussions.
Samson did not always understand.  "Wherefore art thou, understanding."
Samson wants to understand.

	- Sam I am.
	  Sammy Ammy.
	  S.H.
	  The Salmonator.

>>>> Rule 22:20 (Dug - 94/08/17 17:40:45) * INVALID * 0 points
  As you know, the pet in these tales speaks.  You may not know that
Floyd,
the young son, barks.  It's true.  On the March trip Floyd tried to
learn
to read.  They brought help for Floyd: Mac.  (Mac is a friend, not in
the
clan.)  Mac would read to Floyd on the trip.  If the car came to a stop,
this would not stop Floyd.  "Read on, Mac (ruff!)" he said.
  We must help Floyd learn to read.  From now on each rule must go in
step.
This rule starts with an "A" so the next rule must start with a "B".
Then
the next rule must start with a "C".  At the end, it goes "X" "Y" "Z"
and
then "A".

>>>> Rule 22:21 (Alyxx - 94/08/17 18:30:30) * VALID * 1 point
Floyd liked the March trip.  Floyd did not like the loud game.  The loud
game
was in the "cash lose" place.  "Out, damn slot," said Floyd.  Floyd won.
The
game was at the Shore.  Floyd wants THIS game to be fun.  More fun is a
pet or
a wild pet.  Floyd saw a rat.  The rat lives at the Shore.

>>>> Rule 22:22 (Dug - 94/08/17 22:56:22) * VALID * 1 points
  Calliope, the matriarch of the Hurgleburgle family, is also a strict
grammarian.  In fact, this lady has been known to keep a spelling bee
for
a pet!  During the family trip the Hurgleburgles visited northern
Europe.
There Calliope noted what poor spellers the Hurgleburgles really are.
Of
course, everyone spells rotten in the state of Denmark.
  We should set an example for the Hurgleburgles.  From now on, all
English
words in valid rules must be spelled correctly.  Apostrophes must be
used
correctly as well.

>>>> Rule 22:23 (Ronald - 94/08/19 08:36:05) * INVALID * 2 points
   When shall we meet again
   In thunder, lightning, or in Spain?
   When the hurling dog's done.
   When the battle's lost in Gabon.
   That will be Eire the set of sun.
   Where the place?
                Upon Haiti.
   There to meet with Calliope.
   I come, Great Britain!
   Morocco calls.
                Japan!

   Fair is foul, and foul is fair.
   Hover through the fog and Egypt's air.

Henceforth a Rule shall name at least half a dozen countries.
Countries not named before in valid Rules.

>>>> Rule 22:24 (Luke - 94/08/19 15:55:09) * VALID * 2 points

Calliope, thou art both fair and sweet.
Thine husband doth dote upon thy voice so fair.
Admirers gaze upon the lovely patterns of thy feet.
They were printed in the sand last year.

Feet bare in the ides of march.  Since then dogs and lizards
have conspired to obscure the footprints.  Just like this rule,
all future rules must start with a rhyming verse.

>>>> Rule 22:25 (Dug - 94/08/20 18:34:32) * VALID * 1 point
We've heard quite a bit from Calliope
About footprints and the spelling bee.
You may not have heard the REAL antipathy.
Calliope has hate for the verb 'to be'.

On the vacation in March with the family
It the dog came across a sycamore tree.
Then It made Calliope quite angry.
It barked and spoke.  "To pee or not to pee."

"References from that specific tragedy
(including this rule here) now number -beep-.
That makes far more than necessary.
I'd outlaw them all.  But none hear me."

This complaint from the mournful Calliope
broke the heart of this member of the FRC.
"Don't cry, my pet.  I'll champion thee.
No more shall we write the dreaded 'to be'."

No "is," "am," "are," no "was," or "be,"
No "being," "been," or "were" shall we
Write in our rules of fantasy
>From NOW until this round's eternity.

(That includes their omission by apostrophe!)

>>>> Rule 22:26 (Peter - 94/08/21 - 22:35:19) * VALID * 0 points
A windy day, inside a park
Saw papa and son go kiting.
Birds veered.  Ducks squawked.  Ernesto's string
got tangled in the lighting.

The kite swayed to.  The kite swayed fro.
A crash echoed 'cross the lake.
Ernesto cried, "Broken glass!  The kite
through yonder window breaks!"

Ernesto paid for its repairs
a quite outrageous fee.
Ernesto learned to take more care
near others' property.

The family trip continued.
To the game I now refer.
New rules must teach a lesson toh
a family member.s.

  - Peter

>>>> Rule 22:27 (Alyxx - 94/08/22 13:33:21) * INVALID * -1 points

When in dog house with fur-tunes and Dad's eyes,
I all alone do bark my outcast state,
And trouble deaf Hubert with my bootless whines,
And lick upon myself, and bark my fate....
   --  Id's Sorrow

Dog:  I hated the trip.  I rode in a box.
A Hurgleburgle:  Me too.  A plane is a big box.  I hate flying.

Describe a form of transportation the Hurgleburgles use.

>>>> Rule 22:28 (Luke - 94/08/23 13:54:02) * INVALID * 1 points

Floyd and It play "frog".
One leaps over the next.
Floyd plays with the dog.
Jumping on the sand and the deck.

It said a bad thing to Floyd.  "I bite my thumb at you."  Floyd quotes
that phrase.

They like to skip rocks on the lake.  In March they played on the
beach.  Floyd liked the trip.  Floyd played with tiles.  The tiles
looked nice.  Floyd put them in a grid.  Each black tile touched just
white tiles.  Each white tile touched just black tiles. They looked
the best that way.

Floyd learned something from all of the games.  You have two things.
They butt up to one and the other.  They should not be the same thing.

An H. named in a good rule.  Do not name them in the next good rule.
Do not force a bad rule.  The next rule forced to name them.  You
shall not end the game in this way.

>>>> Rule 22:29 (Peter - 94/08/23 20:30:32) * INVALID by vote * 2 points
Me like quail.  Me like juice.
Me like peas and rice.
Me chew loud on trip last March.
Dad said that not nice.

Floyd chew soft now.  But me bite my thumb at dad.  Hee hee!  Floyd bad.

You wait too long for turn in this game.  We have more fun on each turn
now.
Now we make rules twice in a row.  Add both rules at same time.  But add
each in own post.  Pair of rules must link.  You not get it?  Both rules
must deal with same kind of thing.  By this last part me mean REAL rule.
Me
not mean stuff for old rules.

But Floyd not want to go twice.  Me too slow.  Talk of me in rule?
Then wait for new rule not from you.  Then you can add more rules.

Hee hee.  Me want big points from Stein this time!
>>>>

-- Stein       stein.kulseth@tf.tele.no
               G=Stein;S=Kulseth;O=TF;P=tele;A=telemax;C=no;

