Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:19:03 -0500 From: Residue@aol.com To: frc@nvg.unit.no Subject: End of Round 51 (I think) Part 1 of 3... Note: All times are GMT. Name Eligibility Style -------- ----------------- ------ Jeremy 96-02-23 16:21:22 5.5 <-- Round 52's Wizard Judge Stein ineligible 5.0 Kurt ineligible 3.0 Curious ineligible 5.0 Dug ineligible 2.0 Peter ineligible 1.0 (others) ineligible Joshua ineligible 2.0 Ronald ineligible 3.0 Summary ------- Rule 51:1 (Stein) VALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:2 (Ronald) INVALID 3.0 Style Points Rule 51:3 (Joshua) VALID 0.5 Style Points Rule 51:4 (Peter) VALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:5 (Dug) VALID 0.5 Style Points Rule 51:6 (Dug) VALID 0.5 Style Points Rule 51:7 (Dug) VALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:8 (Kurt) INVALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:9 (Jeremy) INVALID 0.5 Style Points Rule 51:10 (Stein) VALID 1.5 Style Points Rule 51:11 (Joshua) INVALID 1.5 Style Points Rule 51:12 (Jeremy) VALID 2.0 Style Points Rule 51:13 (Curious) VALID 2.0 Style Points Rule 51:14 (Kurt) VALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:15 (Jeremy) VALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:16 (Stein) VALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:17 (Jeremy) VALID 2.0 Style Points Rule 51:18 (Curious) INVALID 3.0 Style Points Rule 51:19 (Curious) UNSUCCESSFUL Rule 51:20 (Kurt) INVALID 1.0 Style Points Rule 51:21 (Stein) INVALID 1.5 Style Points Proposal 51:A (Jeremy) PASSED Proposal 51:B (Jeremy) WITHDRAWN Proposal 51:C (Jeremy) WITHDRAWN Proposal 51:D (Andre) WITHDRAWN Proposal 51:D (Jeremy) PASSED Proposal 51:E (Jeremy) FAILED Proposal 51:F (Vanyel) FAILED Proposal 51:G (Curious) Current Vote 1/1 Ends 96-02-24 04:21:46 Rule 51:1 (Stein) VALID 1.0 Style Points >>>>> This rule is for sale, going to the highest bidder when the auction stops at the time of judgement of rule 51:5. Like everyone else I start this round with 1000 FRanC, and I bid 100 FRanC for this rule. >>>>> Judgment: Works for me. Since Stein doesn't (yet) own the rule in any defined sense, I assume he's merely acting as a broker in this sale and won't receive any remuneration. In other words, the purchase payment will go to "the bank." Re-judgment: Still OK, but disregard the bit about not owning the rule and acting as broker. Stein _will_ collect the purchase payment. Rule 51:2 (Ronald) INVALID 3.0 Style Points [changed by re-judgment from INVALID, 0.5 Style Points] >>>>> Every future rule shall offer something for sale and buy something else that is for sale at the moment of its posting. I offer 1 Stylepoint for 100 FRanCs. (Please Mr. Judge I humbly request you to keep track of this too, if necessary!) Oh yes, I bid 200 FRanCs for Stein's first Rule. >>>>> Judgment: I'm afraid I have to draw the line at dealing in "items" whose dispensation is specifically dictated by the Regular Ordinances--in this case, Style Points--without an accompanying overrule proposal. I feel this rule violates R.O. 1 with regard to R.O. 7. Having said that, I might still have let this one fly if Ronald had a Style Point of his own to sell. After all, Style Points are pretty innocuous...what's the worst that could happen? Then again, maybe not. Re-judgment: Upon reconsideration, I'd like to have allowed Style Points as salable commodities. Unfortunately, declaring this rule VALID now would be, I think, disastrous. I'm holding to my original judgment, then (including the policy described in the comments), except to award Ronald the maximum number of Style Points as consolation. Rule 51:3 (Joshua) VALID 0.5 Style Points >>>>>> Any item not bid upon within five rules of the item's posting is declared no longer for sale, and the item will revert back to its original owner (the poster of the rule the item was put up for sale in). I offer for sale a loan of 500 FRanCs, at 10% interest per day until the round is over or the buyer of the loan is no longer elgible for play, at which points the repayment of the loan is due. I bid 200 for the Stylepoint offered for sale in 51.2. >>>>>> Judgment: Bidding for something that isn't for sale may be ineffective, but it's not inconsistent. The first sentence isn't quite clear to me, so I'm taking it with an extra helping of Judge's discretion. ;) I assume the 500 FRanCs will come out of Joshua's pocket should someone buy his loan. Since he's selling something he owns (i.e., his FRanCs), the purchase, principal, and interest payments will be added to his account. Re-judgment: Now that the seller is necessarily the owner, I no longer have a problem with the first sentence. Rule 51:4 (Peter) VALID 1.0 Style Points >>>>> If a rule is purchased before it has been judged, if and when that rule becomes officially VALID the purchaser receives back twice what he paid for it. If the rule becomes officially INVALID, he loses half again what he paid for it (rounding up). Anyone unable to pay such a penalty must declare bankruptcy. I offer up Dug for sale at 400 FRanCs. If Ronald's style point is still available, I'll buy it for 100 FRanCs. >>>>> Judgment: I assume the time of purchase is the time the purchase is posted, not the time the purchase is judged (otherwise, the first part of this rule doesn't do anything). OK, I'll go along with that. What I _won't_ go along with is buying something that isn't for sale; lucky for Peter he made his purchase attempt conditional. Note the distinction between bidding for something and buying it. It makes sense to me, at least. Since Dug does not (to my knowledge) belong to Peter, Peter is a non-compensated broker in the sale of Dug, in accordance with the precedent set by 51:1. Re-judgment: Ronald's Style Point isn't available. Attempting to buy something that isn't for sale is no longer considered inconsistent, but merely unsuccessful. Calling attention to the distinction between bidding and buying is no longer relevant here. Disregard the broker comment. As for the reward/penalty for rule speculation, it isn't clear to me where the extra FRanCs comes from/goes to. The seller? The bank? Because the penalty is called a loss instead of a payment, I'm going to assume this is a transaction with the bank. Rule 51:5 (Dug) VALID 0.5 Style Points >>>>> When a player's rule is judged, that player's FRanC total will be adjusted according to the following formula: New total = Old total + (100 * style points given for judged rule) I offer for sale the right to bribe the Wizard/Judge for a rule INVALIDATION. This is only the _right_ to bribe, the Wizard/Judge and Player may decide on an appropriate bribe amount. I will bid for (and buy) the first rule for 250 FRanCs. >>>>> Judgment: I could almost recycle the speech I gave in my judgment of 51:2 and argue that this rule violates R.O. 1 with respect to R.O. 6. I say "almost," though, because this one has an out--the Judge can always demand a prohibitively expensive bribe to declare an obviously VALID rule INVALID. Thus, it doesn't trample the Judge's prerogative. One note--I expect such a bribe would have to be negotiated prior to a rule's being judged. I'm not convinced the R.O.s permit a Judge to change a declaration without posting a proposal. Dug doesn't own the right to bribe, so he's a non-compensated broker in this sale. Re-judgment: Disregard all the comments in the original judgment. This rule's fine. Rule 51:6 (Dug) VALID 0.5 Style Points [changed by Proposal 51:A from Rule 51:7] [changed by re-judgment from INVALID, 0.5 Style Points] >>>>> Every rule in this round shall have a "retail value" determined using the following formula: Rule 51:X retail value = X * 50 FRanC Players offering rules may not ask for more than the retail value (they can offer "discounts," though). Players purchasing rules must pay at least what was asked (or more, if they choose). I offer for sale rules 51:2 - 51:4 at their retail value. I would also like to purchase myself from Peter at 400 FRanC. Finally, for clarification, the price on the right to bribe the Wizard/Judge (see rule 51:5) is 600 FRanC. >>>>> Judgment: Fixing the amount of the bribe at 600 FRanC would (in my opinion) invalidate, and is therefore inconsistent with, 51:5. Re-judgment: Disregard the original judgment. Everything's cool. Rule 51:7 (Dug) VALID 1.0 Style Points [changed by Proposal 51:A from Rule 51:6] [changed by re-judgment from INVALID, 1.0 Style Points] >>>>> At the end of the round, any player bought by any other player must pay the owning player half of his/her earnings for the round. Each player may be bought and sold only once during the round. I would like to purchase rule 51:2 for 300 FRanC. I offer for sale the Brooklyn Bridge at the low, low price of 150 FRanC. >>>>> Judgment: Rule 51:2 is not (yet) for sale. Re-judgment: ...but that's no longer fatal. The attempt to purchase 51:2 is merely unsuccessful. Proposal 51:A: Now that the order of 51:6 and :7 were reversed, 51:2 is for sale and the buy is successful. Rule 51:8 (Kurt) INVALID 1.0 Style Points [changed by re-judgment from UNSUCCESSFUL] >>>>> Any player that goes bankrupt during the round may recapitalize themselves at the cost of one day of eligibility for each 100 FRanC that they wish to receive. I am buying my own declaration of participation in this round for 100 FRanC. I offer for sale Peter for 600 FRanCs. >>>>> Judgment: Kurt's declaration of participation is not (yet) for sale. Fortunately for Kurt, his declaration of participation also does not exist, and he's not on the member list, so there's no penalty. Re-judgment: Since posting a rule constitutes a statement of intent to join the FRC, this rule should be accepted as legitimate. It is INVALID because it permits an adjustment of eligibility in violation of R.O. 4. Rule 51:9 (Jeremy) INVALID 0.5 Style Points >>>>> FRanCs, Stylepoints and Days of Eligibility may not be taken from another player without that player's knowledge or consent. Stylepoints and Days of Eligibility may not be created or destroyed by players, only the Judge can do that. All future rules may be violated by any rule which pays a sum of FRanCs to be determined by future rules to the author, or if the rule has been sold, to the present owner of the rule. I purchase 51:3 for 150 FRanCs. I purchase 51:4 for 200 FRanCs. I purchase the Brooklyn Bridge for 150 FRanCs. I Offer a time-bomb of my own construction for sale for 400 FRanCs. >>>>> Judgment: This is another rule I think would need an overrule proposal to be VALID, since the "All future rules may be violated..." part is inconsistent with R.O. 6. Re-judgment: I suppose if a rule says you can violate a rule, it's not an inconsistency to do so. I therefore retract my original judgment comment. However, this rule _is_ inconsistent with 50:4, which can penalize players by taking FRanCs without their consent. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:20:13 -0500 From: Residue@aol.com To: frc@nvg.unit.no Subject: End of Round 51 Part 2 of 3... Rule 51:10 (Stein) VALID 1.5 Style Points >>>>> # Isn't that neat! Now YOU can buy one of our hash signs designed to give your rule that little extra. These hash signs cost 30 FRanCs a piece, 50 FRanCs for two and 200 FRanCs for a 10-pack. We also supply percent-signs, %, and curly braces { }, at the same prices. Also, we're currently looking for freelance workers to design new characters for sale. For any character design we will pay 15 FRanC royalty per character sold. KULSETH ENTERPRISES, the FRCs foremost supplier of special characters >>>>> Judgment: I'm assuming (and I'm doing a lot of that these days) use of #, et al., in a rule does not in itself constitute a purchase from Kulseth Enterprises by that rule's author. In other words, purchases must be explicit. Joshua used a % in 51:3 without paying, so there must be other sources of special characters for those willing to settle for second-rate, no-name punctuation. Too bad there's no fantasy Patent Office. By designating himself a supplier, Stein will be considered to own an arbitrarily large quantity of these special characters. As he's selling from stock he owns, he will profit from any sales. His entire inventory will be taken off the market after five rules (per 51:3). Rule 51:11 (Joshua) INVALID 1.5 Style Points >>>>> Thought for the rule: "The last person in existence is the richest person in existence; therefore, the final player to remain eligible in this round is the richest player in this round." I offer for sale 1 insurance policy for the cost of 500 FRanCs. This policy works as follows for the player who purchases it: When a player submits a rule that is deemed INVALID the owner of this policy recieves 1 extra day of eligibility to be taken from Joshua. This policy is terminated upon the purchasing player recieving the day elgibility. I will purchase one designer # (from rule 51,10) for the low cost of 30 FRanCs. >>>>> Judgment: I think the general consensus is you can't affect eligibility at all without overruling R.O. 4. Period. Rule 51:12 (Jeremy) VALID 2.0 Style Points [changed by Proposal 51:D (Jeremy) from INVALID, 2.0 Style Points] [changed by re-judgment from VALID, 2.0 Style Points] >>>>> 1. FRanCs may not be taken from another player without that player's knowledge or consent. <100 FRanCs> 2. All restrictions in this and future rules must be individually and consecutively numbered in the same manner as is found in this rule. <10 FRanCs> 3. All restrictions in this and future rules will apply to all players except those who have purchased and presently own a waiver for that particular restriction. <50 FRanCs> 4. The waiver price for each restriction must accompany that restriction. <50 FRanCs> 5. The use of a waiver destroys it. <50 FRanCs> 6. A maximum of three waivers may be purchased by each rule. <200 FRanCs> 7. Purchase of a waiver requires the transfer of the waiver price to the author or present owner of the waiver. <50 FRanCs> 8. Waivers are automatically offered for sale at the waiver price by the author of the restriction. <100 FRanCs> 9. Waivers may only be resold if specifically offered for resale by the present owner. <50 FRanCs> 10. Once a waiver is sold, the author of that restriction may not offer another waiver for that restriction for sale. <200 FRanCs> 11. Waivers may not be used by the same rule in which they were purchased. <100 FRanCs> 12. The use of a waiver costs the waiver price, which must be payed to the bank. <50 FRanCs> 13. Each author must place a number of FRanCs, equal to 50% of the waiver price for each restriction e writes, in escrow. This sum may not be used by the author or anyone else until it is returned to the author at the time the waiver is sold. <100 FRanCs> I place 555 FRanCs in escrow to pay for these restrictions. >>>>> Judgment: Looks OK to me, except...well, I'll keep my mouth shut. ;) Re-judgment: Oops! Point 1 is inconsistent with 51:4 for the same reason 51:9 was. Proposal 51:D (Jeremy): The INVALID judgment was overturned; this rule is now VALID. Rule 51:13 (Curious) VALID 2.0 Style Points >>>>> 1. I am a representative of the FRenCh Bureau of Exchange, and the sole possessor of the right to exchange other currencies for FRanCs, and FRanCs for other currencies. <50 FRanCs> 2. All exchanges are made with the bank rather than my personal account - I am merely the enabler of these exchanges. <2 FRanCs> 3. Until further notice from this representative, rates will be as follows. 9 FRanCs will be given in return for 10 units of any other currency, with a fee of 1 FRanC payable to myself. 9 units of any other currency will be given in return for 10 FRanCs, also with a fee of 1 FRanC payable to myself. <2 FRanCs> 4. Any individual may cause any amount of currency they possess to be exchanged for other currency by saying so. Exchanges involving FRanCs occur according to the procedure described above. <2 FRanCs> 5. Individuals may charge fees for the sale of items that they do not own. <2 FRanCs> 6. Fees may only be charged in Wizrdz, and may not be more than 10% of the sale price of the item. (eg max fee of 1 Wizrd for the sale of a 10 FRanC item.) <100 FRanCs> 7. No individual may declare themselves the owner of any amount of any currency without also declaring all other individuals owners of a similar amount. <50 FRanCs> 8. All players now have 1000 Wizrdz. <2 FRanCs> 9. Possession Cap. After the first week of the game, the only allowable possessions will be players, rules, waivers, and all other items already possessed at that time. <200 FRanCs> 10. I offer for sale my status as sole possessor of the right to make FRanC exchanges, for a price of 10,000 FRanCs. <2 FRanCs> Prices is <>'s above have no meaning unless 50:12 is valid. If necessary, I place 206 FRanCs in escrow for the above waivers. If available, I purchase a waiver for item 13 of 50:12. Note: I don't believe that items 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, and 10 above constitute "restrictions" per items 2-4 of 51:12, as they are descriptive or enabling. However, I have followed that format just in case. >>>>> Judgement: I guess I deserved this. Hrumph. Note that Curious misspelled "51:12" twice. Good thing spelling doesn't count. ;) Rule 51:14 (Kurt) VALID 1.0 Style Points >>>>> 1. When a player's eligibility runs out, all of their possessions and currency shall go to their designated heir. <20 FRanCs> 2. A player may only designate another eligible player as their heir. <20 FRanCs> 3. If the player has not designated an heir or their heir is no longer eligible, the possessions shall be confiscated by the bank and the currency shall be divided equally among the remaining eligible players. <20 FRanCs> I designate Curious as my heir. I'm placing 60 FRanCs in escrow for a rainy day (or the reversal of 51:12s INVALID status). >>>>> Judgment: From context, I'm taking "the player" in 51:14.3 to mean "the player whose eligibility ran out." Any opinions as to what a "player" is--all FRC members, or only those currently participating? I'm inclined to think the latter. Rule 51:15 (Jeremy) VALID 1.0 Style Points >>>>> 1. Each player, unless e has already done so, must designate eir heir in eir next valid rule. <1 FRanC> (air-air-air??? damn I hate these gender-neutrals...) 2. A 10% gratuity is customarily payed to the undertaker from the total sum of currency received by an heir. (Note that this is payed AFTER the heir has received all of the currency from the deceased). <1 FRanC> 3. I am the undertaker. <4 FRanCs> I place 3 FRanCs in escrow. I place up for sale the right to be named my heir. The price for this item is 3000 FranCs divided by the number of full days of eligibility I have left (rounded down to the nearest FRanC) at the time the purchase request is posted. Hurry, hurry, hurry, be the first in the line of suspects at my murder trial! The price only gets higher! >>>>> Judgment: Looks good to me. Rule 51:16 (Stein) VALID 1.0 Style Points >>>>> #%%# While I don't actually agree with the wizard judge's reason to invalidate 51:12, I don't like 51:12 much either, so initially I vote against Jeremy's 51:D to declare 51:12 VALID. I do however put up for sale a change of mind on this matter, so if anyone wants to buy my yes vote on this 51:D, then he should pay me 1000 FRanCs before the vote timeout. My vote will then automatically change to a hollering "For Jeremy's 51:D!!" Also I designate Kurt my heir. PS. new stock of #%{} is in, now half off previous retail price!! {{}} >>>>> Judgment: I'm awarding Stein 750 Style Points for this rule. I'm also docking 749 Style Points for disagreeing with the Judge. Rule 51:17 (Jeremy) VALID 2.0 Style Points >>>>> I purchase from myself, for a total price of 250 FRanCs, (Thank you, sir. Your welcome, sir, I hope you enjoy them, have a good day.) waivers for 51:12.1, 51:12.5 and 51:12.11. I pay 250 FRanCs to the bank in order to use all three of these waivers. Note that waiver 51:12.11 allows me to use these waivers immediately and that, thanks to 51:12.5 the use of them does not result in their destruction. I now, thanks to the immunity granted me by waiver 51:12.1, pilfer the sum of 1000 FRanCs from Stein's bank account. Flush with cash and adrenaline I purchase Stein's FOR vote from him with his own money (how does the theme from that movie "The Sting" go?). I note that, if 51:12 becomes VALID, my purchase of my own waivers will result in 125 FRanCs returning to me from escrow. This does not seem fair somehow. Accordingly: 1. From this rule onward, if a player should receive a sum of money from escrow due to that same player's purchase of eir own waiver, then that player must, in his (present or) next valid rule donate those procedes to another player. <2 FRanCs> I place 1 FRanC in escrow. I donate 125 FRanCs to Stein in partial guilt-payment for the insult of violating his bank account. Will this appease the gods for my sin? Who knows? More likely my punishment will come from a more humble quarter... Oh, and I also designate Stein as my heir. The hier-designate offer from 51:15 still stands, however; there is nothing preventing me from changing my heir designation. However, I swear that, if someone should buy that right to be designated my heir, I shall never change that designation so long as that player is eligible. I offer for resale at twice their initial waiver price, all three waivers I purchased in this rule. >>>>> Judgment: Who says crime doesn't pay? This was cleverly designed to work whether 51:12 is VALID _or_ INVALID. It also (inadvertently?) clarifies some of the finer points of 51:12, which might come in handy later--on the off chance 51:D passes. The only part I'm a bit iffy on is the last sentence, considering 51:12 is not (yet) VALID...but I'll let it go. This time. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:21:55 -0500 From: Residue@aol.com To: frc@nvg.unit.no Subject: End of Round 51 Part 3 of 3... Rule 51:18 (Curious) INVALID 3.0 Style Points >>>>> If I still have any Wizrds, I exchange them all for FRanCs. I designate Kurt as my heir. (Brother!) I separately offer for sale Kurt, Stein, and Jeremy, at the price of 1000 Wizrds each. ======= 1. No more than two players are "the undertaker" at any time. <100 FRanCs> 2. I too am the undertaker. <2 FRanCs> 3. Theft has many faces. <0 FRanCs> ======= 51 FRanCs -> escrow. >>>>> Judgment: 51:18.2 is inconsistent with 51:15.3. While an argument could be made for the coexistence of both these restrictions, allowing such an interpretation would set a dangerous precedent and be disruptive of the game, as almost any restriction might be similarly rendered meaningless. I'm awarding 3 Style Points because martyrdom is _very_ stylish (see Proposal 51:G). Rule 51:19 (Curious) UNSUCCESSFUL >>>>> If available, I buy the waiver for 51:12.1 for 200 FRanCs from Jeremy. I exchange my current stock of Wizrds for FRanCs (if any). If available, I buy the right to be named Jeremy's heir from Jeremy for current price. If that is successful, I invoke this right. Curious' Warehouse: I offer for sale at retail all previous rules not currently owned or for sale. ========================================================== The Ronald Memorial Restrictions: 1. Every future rule attempts to buy or bid for something that may be for sale or auction at the time of posting. <10 FRanCs> 2. Every future rule offers something for sale beyond what is required by 51:12.8. <100 FRanCs> 3. Henceforth players may not buy or bid for anything put up for sale or auction in the same rule. <50 FRanCs> ========================================================== 80 FRanCs -> escrow. Administravia: Kurt is my heir. >>>>> Judgment: This rule was submitted after Curious's eligibility had expired. Rule 51:20 (Kurt) INVALID 1.0 Style Points >>>>> 1. I am the sole member of the Fantasy Reserve Commission. <6 FauxRanCs> 2. As a result of a glut in the FRanC supply, I am declaring that all FRanCs are null and void as legal tender. <6 FauxRanCs> 3. Each player is hereby given 100 units of the new currency, FauxRanCs. <6 FauxRanCs> 4. Due to the high inflation, each transaction is subject to a 10% tax, payable to the bank. <6 FauxRanCs> I place 12 FauxRanCs in escrow. I will buy myself and Stein for 1000 Wizrds each. I am selling my suitable for collecting set of original FRanCs for 100 FauxRanCs. >>>>> Judgment: 51:12.13 explicitly says that FRanCs must be placed in escrow to cover restrictions. While Kurt _does_ have a 30 FRanC surplus in escrow, that doesn't cover his obligation to sock away 50% of the waiver price in FRanCs, considering 51:20.2 would render FRanCs pretty much worthless (even the sale suggests a value of 31+ FRanCs per FauxRanC). Rule 51:21 (Stein) INVALID 1.5 Style Points >>>>> I buy all of Jeremy's waivers. Note that waiver 51:12:11 allows me to use the waivers in this rule, waiver 51:12:6 allows me to buy more than three waivers, and 51:12:5 allows me to keep the waivers after their use. I don't offer them up for resale though, I might need them later. Furthermore waiver 51:12:7 allows me not to transfer any money to Jeremy, and waiver 51:12:12 also allows me to use them without paying anything to the bank, so this is all free of charge. In addition (payback time) I pilfer 4558 FRanCs and 4000 Wizrds from Jeremy's account, as allowed by waiver 51:12:1. He will have something returned from escrow anyhow, so he won't starve. Also my waivers allow me to state the following restrictions without numbering/waivers/price tags and escrow stuff: There does not exist any more currency in the FRC universe, than what is currently in circulation. >>>>> Judgment: A bold move, but one with a fatal flaw. Waiver 51:12.6 might indeed allow Stein to buy all of Jeremy's waivers, but Stein wouldn't have Waiver 51:12.6 until _after_ the purchase. The purchase, then, is still bound by--and inconsistent with--51:12.6. Trying to use a waiver one doesn't have is just a plain old violation. Note that other waivers which could be considered to help Stein pull this off (51:12.2 and 51:12.11, in particular) would only have come into play after the illegal purchase, too. Unless time travel is permitted, this rule won't work. Proposal 51:A (Jeremy) PASSED >>>>> That the official numbering of rules 51:6 and 51:7 be reversed. >>>>> Comment: Voting FOR--Curious, Dug, Jeremy, Kurt, Peter, Stein; voting AGAINST--Residue, Ronald. Proposal 51:B (Jeremy) WITHDRAWN >>>>> That the rule initially denoted by the Judge as 51:7, but rightly numbered 51:6, be declared VALID. >>>>> Comment: The rule was declared VALID by re-judgment. Proposal 51:C (Jeremy) WITHDRAWN >>>>> That the rule initially denoted by the Judge as 51:6, but rightly numbered 51:7, be declared VALID. >>>>> Comment: The rule was declared VALID by re-judgment. Proposal 51:D (Andre) WITHDRAWN >>>>> The Judge should judge 51:8 >>>>> Comment: The rule was declared INVALID by re-judgment. Proposal 51:D (Jeremy) PASSED >>>>> That 51:12 be declared VALID >>>>> Comment: Voting FOR--Curious, Jeremy, Kurt, Stein; voting AGAINST--Residue, Ronald. Proposal 51:E (Jeremy) FAILED >>>>> That 51:13 be declared INVALID >>>>> Comment: Voting AGAINST--Curious, Kurt, Residue, Ronald; voting FOR--Jeremy. Proposal 51:F (Vanyel) FAILED >>>>> The Regular Ordinances shall be Amended by replacing RO 10 with the following text: 10. Where and When. All actions under these rules must be accomplished by a public posting in the official committee forum. The official time at which a message occurs is the time its posting was received at the official committee forum. The Judge may determine the location and nature of the official committee forum. >>>>> Comment: Voting AGAINST--Jeremy, Morendil, Stein; voting FOR--Ronald, Vanyel. Proposal 51:G (Curious) Current Vote 1/1 Ends 96-02-24 04:21:46 >>>>> I propose that 51:18 be deemed INVALID. >>>>> Comment: Voting FOR--Curious. Bryan Bowe residue@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:06:42 EST From: Jeremy D Selengut To: frc@nvg.unit.no Cc: selengut@MIT.EDU Subject: Arrrgh!!! NOTE that this NOT a rule attempt!!! I was just finishing the final bits of this when I got Kurt's rule in my box. Well done, Kurt, I've been stuffed! >>>Begin Rule>>> 1. If a player should become no longer eligible to play after the first eight days of the round e shall be considered, for the purposes this round's economy, to have died. <1 FRanC> 2. Each player, in his/her next valid rule, must designate his/her beneficiary. <1 FRanC> 3. If a player should die without having designated a beneficiary, the beneficiary is considered to be the player who posted the most recent valid rule at the time of death. <1 FRanC> 4. Whenever a player dies, that player's sum of currency and valuable goods is transferred to an "estate" which is considered to be the new owner of all currency and goods. Immediately, all currency is exchanged into FRanCs at going rates and with payment of all appropriate fees, all goods with well-defined value are placed up for sale at those values and all other goods are auctioned in the same manner as was rule 51:1. When no more goods are left for sale or auction, a 10% gratuity is customarily payed to the undertaker from the total sum of FRanCs, and the remainder is paid to the beneficiary. <1 FRanC> 5. I am the undertaker. <2 FRanCs> I place 3 FRanCs in escrow. I place up for sale the right to be named my beneficiary in my next rule. The price for this item is 3000 FranCs divided by the number of full days of eligibility I have left (rounded down to the nearest FRanC) at the time the purchase request is posted. Hurry, hurry, hurry, be the first in the line of suspects at my murder trial! The price only gets higher! <<